Perfect Murder Adrienne Shelly and JonBenet Ramsey
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Perfect Murder Adrienne Shelly and JonBenet Ramsey
we have 2 competing claims
this is trasha griffith
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is what she claims
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?76520-Patsy-Ramsey/page92
this is her qualifications
in other words she has ZERO qualifications in forensic science. she has no training in forensic fiber, trace evidence, DNA yet she claims
from time to time I watch ID channel shows,
one series i just watched is The Perfect Murder
Fade to Black
Season 4 Ep. 2
Rated: TV-14
Released: 6/21/17
Running time: 42:35
Language: English
here
link
https://youtu.be/VI8jv4rFIY0
it is about the murder of Adrienne Shelly
a near perfect murder.
when Adrienne Shelly was found dead in her apartment
her death was ruled a suicide
2 medical examiners, one hired by LE and one by husband said it was suicide
no bruises, no defensive wounds, no scratches, no injuries
Adrienne Shelly was found dead in her apartment bathroom, she was hanging from a bedsheet
nothing was stolen. a computer forensics search of her computer showed she was looking up death.
no forced entry.
her family and friends did not believe she was suicidal. they believed an intruder murdered her.
so what had to be decided was,
did she hang herself, or was she murdered by an intruder?
evidence of suicide was mentioned above
evidence of murder by an intruder
on the lid of the closed toilet in the bathroom was a shoe print.
the bedsheet when it was tied had a rather elaborate knot usually done by sailers or trained in the navy, and seemingly required more knot-tying knowledge than the average person.
so is a shoe print not sourced to Adrienne Shelly and a bed sheet with a knot tied which her family said she did not know how to tie evidence an intruder murdered her?
as part of the investigation, they requested the shoe print of the EMT, all detectives, police officers, family, friends who were known to be in her apartment to be taken
no match.
is this a scintalla of evidence an intruder murdered her
or is this not a scintlla of evidence an intruder murdered her,
she committed suicide
there are only 2 possibilites
suicide, or an intruder murdered her
after all, a shoe print could come from anywhere
and perhaps she does know how to tie an elaborate knot that lead to her suicide
this evidence of course is much less convincing evidence of an intruder in JonBenet Ramsey case
what methodology would you use to decide if Adrienne Shelly committed suicide or was murdered by an intruder.
if suicide
how much weight would you put on evidence like a shoe print and a tied knot of her bed sheet?
if murder,
how much weight would you put on evidence like her researching death on computer and no forced entry, and medical examiner finding of suicide?
if it was murder, why no sexual assault, nothing stolen, no items missing, no money taken, no evidence, no DNA, no fingerprints
how would you apply this to the JonBenet Ramsey murder
and if it was an intruder, what could you say about the intruder?
a serial killer? a mastermind? someone who is an expert sadistic psychopath?
suppose this case Adrienne Shelly was as famous and argued over in the media as JonBenet Ramsey murder
suppose the media, LE medical examiners and the supermajority of forum posters are on the side that Adrienne Shelly committed suicide, and her family is in deep denial.
that there is not a scintilla of evidence a mysterious intruder entered her apartment and strangled her
could they claim that the shoe print and the knot is not a scintilla of evidence, truthfully?
then apply to what RDI say in Jonbenet case
if Adrienne Shelly murder or suicide the shoe print on the toilet lid, which could have been done anyone at any time before the crime, no proof it was left at the time of her supposed murder, and the knot tie, is evidence of an intruder
how then to evaluate ALL of the evidence in the Jonbenet case?
what kind of reasoning would you use to determine if Adrienne Shelly was murder by intruder or suicide, how would you evaluate the evidence found, and what conclusion would you make? do RDI use same standard for Jonbenet?
after all, in Adrienne Shelly you cannot prove the shoe print was left on the toilet lid at that time, at the time of her murder, by her killer. you cannot prove Adrienne Shelly didn't not know how to tie the knot in her hanging.
since you cannot prove this, therefore there is not a scintilla of evidence and it was a suicide
does this sound reasoning as RDI say ? you can't prove the hi-tec shoe print was placed at the time of her murder, and not, say a week before her murder, or by a police officer or detective after her murder so therefore the hi-tec shoe print proves nothing
is this a scientifically and forensically acceptable way to evaluate forensic crime scene evidence?
this is trasha griffith
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is what she claims
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?76520-Patsy-Ramsey/page92
tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.
No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.
As owner, I do my best to stay out of actual discussions about a crime.
The JBR case is the one expection.
Websleuths is a leader in true crime information as well as discussion. People come here to get information. It is imperative we deal with the facts. Not fantasy.
All I ask for are facts and a logical connecting of the dots. Logic and facts.
When I get time I will be going through the forum to make sure the JonBenet Ramsey forum is being held up to the high standards just like all our other forums on Websleuths.
The days of allowing anyone to post anything because it's part of their "theory" are gone. Facts and logic. Very simple.
this is her qualifications
Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.
in other words she has ZERO qualifications in forensic science. she has no training in forensic fiber, trace evidence, DNA yet she claims
tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.
No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.
from time to time I watch ID channel shows,
one series i just watched is The Perfect Murder
Fade to Black
Season 4 Ep. 2
Rated: TV-14
Released: 6/21/17
Running time: 42:35
Language: English
here
link
https://youtu.be/VI8jv4rFIY0
it is about the murder of Adrienne Shelly
a near perfect murder.
when Adrienne Shelly was found dead in her apartment
her death was ruled a suicide
2 medical examiners, one hired by LE and one by husband said it was suicide
no bruises, no defensive wounds, no scratches, no injuries
Adrienne Shelly was found dead in her apartment bathroom, she was hanging from a bedsheet
nothing was stolen. a computer forensics search of her computer showed she was looking up death.
no forced entry.
her family and friends did not believe she was suicidal. they believed an intruder murdered her.
so what had to be decided was,
did she hang herself, or was she murdered by an intruder?
evidence of suicide was mentioned above
evidence of murder by an intruder
on the lid of the closed toilet in the bathroom was a shoe print.
the bedsheet when it was tied had a rather elaborate knot usually done by sailers or trained in the navy, and seemingly required more knot-tying knowledge than the average person.
so is a shoe print not sourced to Adrienne Shelly and a bed sheet with a knot tied which her family said she did not know how to tie evidence an intruder murdered her?
as part of the investigation, they requested the shoe print of the EMT, all detectives, police officers, family, friends who were known to be in her apartment to be taken
no match.
is this a scintalla of evidence an intruder murdered her
or is this not a scintlla of evidence an intruder murdered her,
she committed suicide
there are only 2 possibilites
suicide, or an intruder murdered her
after all, a shoe print could come from anywhere
and perhaps she does know how to tie an elaborate knot that lead to her suicide
this evidence of course is much less convincing evidence of an intruder in JonBenet Ramsey case
what methodology would you use to decide if Adrienne Shelly committed suicide or was murdered by an intruder.
if suicide
how much weight would you put on evidence like a shoe print and a tied knot of her bed sheet?
if murder,
how much weight would you put on evidence like her researching death on computer and no forced entry, and medical examiner finding of suicide?
if it was murder, why no sexual assault, nothing stolen, no items missing, no money taken, no evidence, no DNA, no fingerprints
how would you apply this to the JonBenet Ramsey murder
and if it was an intruder, what could you say about the intruder?
a serial killer? a mastermind? someone who is an expert sadistic psychopath?
suppose this case Adrienne Shelly was as famous and argued over in the media as JonBenet Ramsey murder
suppose the media, LE medical examiners and the supermajority of forum posters are on the side that Adrienne Shelly committed suicide, and her family is in deep denial.
that there is not a scintilla of evidence a mysterious intruder entered her apartment and strangled her
could they claim that the shoe print and the knot is not a scintilla of evidence, truthfully?
then apply to what RDI say in Jonbenet case
if Adrienne Shelly murder or suicide the shoe print on the toilet lid, which could have been done anyone at any time before the crime, no proof it was left at the time of her supposed murder, and the knot tie, is evidence of an intruder
how then to evaluate ALL of the evidence in the Jonbenet case?
what kind of reasoning would you use to determine if Adrienne Shelly was murder by intruder or suicide, how would you evaluate the evidence found, and what conclusion would you make? do RDI use same standard for Jonbenet?
after all, in Adrienne Shelly you cannot prove the shoe print was left on the toilet lid at that time, at the time of her murder, by her killer. you cannot prove Adrienne Shelly didn't not know how to tie the knot in her hanging.
since you cannot prove this, therefore there is not a scintilla of evidence and it was a suicide
does this sound reasoning as RDI say ? you can't prove the hi-tec shoe print was placed at the time of her murder, and not, say a week before her murder, or by a police officer or detective after her murder so therefore the hi-tec shoe print proves nothing
is this a scientifically and forensically acceptable way to evaluate forensic crime scene evidence?
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