Marshall Brain God delusion is hurting us vs real world Nicole Lynn Sellers & Kaitlyn Nicole Moak

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Marshall Brain God delusion is hurting us vs real world Nicole Lynn Sellers & Kaitlyn Nicole Moak

Post by redpill on Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:56 am

Suspect

I've read Marshall Brain  whywontgodhealamputees.com and godisimganary

I for the most part agree with what he says.



he says here
marshall brain wrote:
If you are a Christian, you are about to begin a fascinating journey. In the next ten minutes it will become clear to you that your belief in God is delusional.

The problem is that your delusion, combined with the delusion of billions of other religious people like you, is hurting us as a species. It does not matter if you are a fundamentalist Christian, a moderate Christian or a casual Christian. Your delusion is hurting us.

The goal of this short video is to help you look in a mirror and understand the delusion of Christianity. Once you can see what is going on, the hope is that you will be able to start healing your delusion. With each healing, we make our world a better place.
https://whywontgodhealamputees.com/video7.htm

Marshall Brain claim hold up in the real world with real people?

take for instance, Nicole Lynn Sellers 29


Nicole Lynn Sellers, 29
December 19, 1976 - October 29, 2006
Indiana

Nicole Lynn Sellers, 29, of Nashville, Tennessee formerly of Pendleton, Indiana passed away at Vanderbilt Medical Center, Nashville, Tennessee on October 29, 2006. Nicole was born December 19, 1976 in Anderson, Indiana. complications from cystic fibrosis




obit wrote:
A devoted Christian, Nicole was an active member of West End Community Church, Nashville, Tennessee and was involved in several bible studies including one she started with a close circle of friends and Echo and Kairos. Growing up she was an active member of Markleville North Christian Church. She strongly believed that God put her on this earth not only to promote medical well-being but also to enable others to find spiritual healing. She belonged to the Vanderbilt Medical Campus Outreach program and participated in a medical mission's trip to Cuzco, Peru. She instructed medical students, provided health care, and taught bible classes. In March of 2006, Nicole participated in a mission trip to Cameroon, Africa. She helped build a roof for a newly established church, taught Bible School classes and provided medical care and supplies to those in need in that area.
Nicole was selected as a recipient of Who's Who Among American Nurses in October of 2006. Nicole refused to let the obstacles she faced physically, because of Cystic Fibrosis, hinder her from reaching out to help others.http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Nicole-Sellers-88654697

she outlived a lot of people with CF. i'm surprised she had such strong faith in God and Christ. If I had CF the first thing I would do is pray and read and study the bible. i continued to have CF despite my prayers and promises Jesus makes in the gospels on healing i'd start becoming skeptical.
did the thought maybe god doesn't exist is the reason he doesn't heal CF occur to her? it has occurred to me. well she died believing she is going to heaven with jesus. for her, her belief in jesus inspired her to make the world a better place.

So Nicole Lynn Seller 29 is an example of how a belief in God, Jesus, and the bible inspired her to take action and make the world a better place. It inspired her to go into pediatric nursing and to do healing and medical care.

Growing up she was an active member of Markleville North Christian Church. She strongly believed that God put her on this earth not only to promote medical well-being but also to enable others to find spiritual healing. She belonged to the Vanderbilt Medical Campus Outreach program and participated in a medical mission's trip to Cuzco, Peru. She instructed medical students, provided health care, and taught bible classes. In March of 2006, Nicole participated in a mission trip to Cameroon, Africa. She helped build a roof for a newly established church, taught Bible School classes and provided medical care and supplies to those in need in that area.
Nicole was selected as a recipient of Who's Who Among American Nurses in October of 2006. Nicole refused to let the obstacles she faced physically, because of Cystic Fibrosis,

Marshall Brain's claim is that the delusion of Nicole Lynn Seller 29, a delusion in god jesus and the bible, is harming society and the world would be better off without people like her.

as a point of comparison

Kaitlyn Nicole Moak 18
May 14, 1994 - June 22, 2012
New Lenox, Illinois

Kaitlyn Nicole Moak Age 18, of New Lenox formerly of Chicago, passed away June 22nd, 2012 fatal heroin overdoses



her obit

Kaitlyn Nicole Moak
Age 18, of New Lenox formerly of Chicago, passed away June 22nd, 2012. Kaitlyn is survived by her loving family, mother Jacqueline Olson-Montes, step father Raymond Montes, siblings Luke and Avery Montes, grandparents Audrey and Wayne Moak, Mary McCarthy and Richard Olson, great grandmother Lillian Semeniuk, uncles Rick (Arien) Olson, Carl (Tracy) Moak, aunts Collene (Salvador) Mendoza and Collette Moak, cousins Ramon Escalante, Stephanie and Brianna Moak and Colin and Haley Olson.She was preceded in death by her father Curtis Moak. She was a 2012 graduate of Providence Catholic High School in New Lenox. Family will receive friends at Kurtz Memorial Chapel 102 E. Francis Road New Lenox, IL 60451 on Monday, June 25, 2012 from 3-8pm. Funeral Service on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 at 10:00am in the funeral home chapel. Interment will follow to Woodlawn Memorial Park in Joliet.
http://hosting-24990.tributes.com/obituary/show/Kaitlyn-Nicole-Moak-94000140

does state she attended a catholic school, but no profession of any faith in god or jesus. no biographical statement she loved jesus and lived to serve God and the bible. her mother does not state she has any religious belief or she spent time as a christian and around christians.

why she died i'll underline salient points

By Gregory Pratt, Chicago Tribune reporter wrote:
By this time in September, Jackie Olson had hoped her daughter Kaitlyn Moak would be settling into her second year at Illinois State, weathering the usual ups and downs of college life away from home.

In the months before her death from a heroin overdose in June 2012, the New Lenox teen seemed full of plans, talking with friends and family about the year ahead.

But the 18-year-old former choir member at Providence Catholic High School became another casualty of heroin in the suburbs, dying of an overdose just weeks after graduating from the New Lenox school.

"A lot of people think it would never happen to them," said Olson, who hopes her daughter's story might help others avoid the drug. "But you'd be surprised who it happens to."

Over the past five years, Chicago's collar counties have experienced a significant spike in fatal heroin overdoses, records show. Will County, in particular, has been devastated by the drug, recording 53 deaths last year.

Up until the last months of her life, Moak seemed an unlikely victim of heroin's ravages, said Olson, describing her daughter as a regular, "dorky" teen.

Providence choir director Stacy Eckert remembers Moak as a bright, hardworking student with a great sense of humor. And former classmate Cassidy Glenn recalls Moak volunteering to carry her books when she tore her ACL during a basketball game their junior year.

"She (was) the type of person that always had your back and could put a smile on your face at any time of the day," Glenn, 19, said.

After Moak's father died in a construction accident in 2006, she seemed to "gravitate toward kids who needed a support system," said Karen Shaw, Olson's close friend. "I think her father's death affected her greatly and made her more sensitive to other kids and other people who had experienced hardships," she said.

During the teen's senior year, close friend Amy Gauger said she noticed changes. Moak began hanging with a new crowd and Gauger said she heard that Moak had tried hard drugs. When she confronted her, Moak said she had everything under control.

Gauger said she tried to be a friend and listen to Moak but sometimes regrets not going to Olson with what she knew.

"I'd rather Kaitlyn be here and hate me, yelling at me until she's blue in the face, telling me how much she hates me, than having her being where she is now," Gauger said. "I think it's worth losing a friend to save her life than keep her and nobody has her."

Others tried to warn Moak away from the drug. Providence counselor Cindy Olczyk said she became concerned after a New Lenox friend, Dan Healy, 19, died from a heroin overdose in May 2012, but Moak denied doing drugs.

"This is a monster, and I don't want that monster to take over you," Olczyk warned the teenager. "And that's what it'll do. It'll take over."

Olson said she learned her daughter used heroin in March 2012 from one of Moak's friends who was also doing heroin. For Olson, who works in law enforcement, her professional experience made the news especially devastating.

"Once you try heroin, (it's) jail, rehab and death," Olson said. "Maybe not in that order, but it's gonna happen."

In New Lenox's tight-knit group of young heroin users, Moak met and became friends with another user.

The friend, who asked not to be named, said that the two did not feel they had an addiction and even had "sober Sundays," when they would play cards, visit the zoo or watch TV.

"I never saw it as a problem just because, at the time, we were not injecting it. We were snorting it. We were going to school during the week and only using on the weekends.

"Neither of us pawned anything," the friend said, "like your typical addict."

In the months before Moak's death, Olson said she regularly drug tested her daughter and searched her belongings, but Moak kept turning up clean. The teen visited colleges and registered at Illinois State, Olson said, while showing up to school every morning and working her job at Subway.

After graduation, Moak took a road trip to the East Coast with an aunt to bid farewell to a cousin who was leaving for Naval duty aboard the USS Eisenhower.

"When my son's ship pulled out, (Moak) and I were holding each other and crying our eyes out," her aunt Colleen Mendoza said. "That was two days before she died."

On the night Moak returned home, she traveled to Chicago with a couple of friends and bought heroin, according to police records.

The group met up with a drug dealer off 95th and Halsted streets in Chicago, police said, where Moak paid $90 for some bags of what the teens called "good heroin." Moak overdosed and died on June 22.

After Moak died, Olson pulled her two young surviving children aside and talked to them about her daughter's death, comparing heroin to cigarettes because she didn't know how to explain an overdose to 8-year old twins.

"'You know how Kaitlyn used to smoke cigarettes and Mom didn't like it?'" Olson recalled saying. "'Well, Kaitlyn used drugs. It was kind of like smoking cigarettes,' I said, 'and you do drugs, you die.'"

To this day, Olson still struggles with the grief of losing her child, who would have been 19 if she were alive. In the end, Olson said, she thinks her daughter was naive about the drug's danger and didn't understand what she was getting herself into.

"She just wanted to get high," Olson said. "She never thought she would die."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-09-19/news/ct-tl-0919-s-new-lenox-heroin-death-moak-20130919_1_heroin-overdose-overdose-death-friend

salient points

i knew someone who loved led zeppelin, and as led zeppelin did drugs, so did she, she developed psychosis and committed suicide.

So would you rather your daughter do Jesus and stay clean, or reject religion like Marshall Brain recommends, as the delusion of god harms society, than hang with a crowd of non-religious heroin addicts, gets addicted to heroin turns to crime to pay for heroin and dies at age 18 from drug OD, with

if Marshall Brain claims were true, and that the delusion of God hurts society, we should perhaps praise Kaitlyn Nicole Moak and castigate Nicole Lynn Sellers.

Who would you rather have as a daughter, sister, mother, neighbor and friend Nicole Lynn Sellers or Kaitlyn Nicole Moak?
both died, but their path to death is very different. Nicole died from CF. Kaitlyn died from heroin OD




is it me or do they look like older/younger sisters. Nicole Lynn Sellers & Kaitlyn Nicole Moak are the two most similar looking white flowers with the most radically different outcomes, but both died, for very different reasons, one CF the other OD

one way to look at the delusion of god and jesus and the bible is that it kept Nicole Sellers away from heroin and drugs.

Nicole Lynn Sellers & Kaitlyn Nicole Moak are both white females, adults.

would you rather live in a society of  Nicole Lynn Sellers or heroin addicts like  Kaitlyn Nicole Moak who die at age 18 from drug overdose, and who convince other teenage youths to also get high off of heroin and make the goal of life injecting heroin.

this

Growing up she was an active member of Markleville North Christian Church. She strongly believed that God put her on this earth not only to promote medical well-being but also to enable others to find spiritual healing. She belonged to the Vanderbilt Medical Campus Outreach program and participated in a medical mission's trip to Cuzco, Peru. She instructed medical students, provided health care, and taught bible classes. In March of 2006, Nicole participated in a mission trip to Cameroon, Africa. She helped build a roof for a newly established church, taught Bible School classes and provided medical care and supplies to those in need in that area.
Nicole was selected as a recipient of Who's Who Among American Nurses in October of 2006. Nicole refused to let the obstacles she faced physically, because of Cystic Fibrosis,

or this



"Once you try heroin, (it's) jail, rehab and death," Olson said. "Maybe not in that order, but it's gonna happen."

In New Lenox's tight-knit group of young heroin users, Moak met and became friends with another user.

The group met up with a drug dealer off 95th and Halsted streets in Chicago, police said, where Moak paid $90 for some bags of what the teens called "good heroin." Moak overdosed and died on June 22.

On the night Moak returned home, she traveled to Chicago with a couple of friends and bought heroin, according to police records.



"She just wanted to get high," Olson said. "She never thought she would die."


Imagine a society of Nicole Lynn Sellers  29, who worked as a pediatric nurse and provided medical care to poor children in africa vs a society of heroin addicts who die at age 18 and convince other teenages to join them in heroin, and who drop out of school and engage in criminal activity to pay for herion, the world of  Kaitlyn Nicole Moak 18

Do you agree with Marshall Brain that a society of  Nicole Lynn Sellers  29, would, if left of its own devices, self-destruct because of the delusion of god, granted i wouldn't want to live in a muslim or fundamentalist jew or christian society.

Nicole was selected as a recipient of Who's Who Among American Nurses in October of 2006. Nicole refused to let the obstacles she faced physically, because of Cystic Fibrosis,

or this

"Once you try heroin, (it's) jail, rehab and death," Olson said. "Maybe not in that order, but it's gonna happen."

In New Lenox's tight-knit group of young heroin users, Moak met and became friends with another user.


who is wise?

i have an answer




Supreme leader is wise



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my thoughts

IMO create a better religion, but one that is backwards compatible to christianity, similar to how windows is backwards compatible to dos, or intel icore i8 is backwards compatible to 8088 and indoctrinate children in that like Snoke First Order Finn and stormtroopers, like Jedi stealing children and brainwashing them to avoid the darkside at a young age , like north koreans so they avoid the pitfalls. this new religion though doesn't have any content or material that Marshall Brain and atheists have flagged as problematic to say the least. basically some form of marcionism and gnosticism, in combination with zen, buddhism and taoism.

you want brainwashed indoctrinated children to look up to the wise one like this



i luv this cartoon

the wise one actually has knowledge of marcionism and gnosticism, in combination with zen, buddhism and taoism. and fortune cookies of all kinds.

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