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On the Case with Paula Zahn S16E06-Stacy's Story or why forumsforjustice Delmar England are forensic frauds

Post by redpill on Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:37 pm

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On the Case with Paula Zahn S16E06-Stacy's Story



A mother finds her teenage daughter savagely murdered inside their own home. Will a few drops of blood discovered decades later be the key to solving the tragic mystery?

this crime is about the murder of 15-year-old Stacy Knappenberger was killed while alone in her family's Oxnard apartment on July 30, 1980



the only suspect in this case was Stacy's exbf

i've never heard of this case before it was featured on Paual Zahn

how should we go about resolving this.

well let's consult forumsforjustice Delmar England for advice on how to go about solving this case, highly recommended by cynic and trasha griffith


this is Delmar England cynic provided me in the links

Letter to Boulder Colorado District Attorney, Mary Keenan

The crime scene consisted of an obviously bogus multi-page "ransom note" utilizing local materials. JonBenet's body was left in the basement of the Ramsey home with crude trappings falling woefully short of presenting a convincing kidnap\murder scene as it was intended to do. Even without pointing out more of a very long list of corroborating facts, the bogus note and inept staging is more than sufficient to isolate the perpetrators to the Ramsey household. Only a few minutes in examining and evaluating the evidence is required to reach this conclusion. It is impossible to reach any other conclusion on the facts. There was and is no evidentiary reason to look anywhere else. The only mystery to be solved was and is which Ramsey did what in relation to JonBenet's death.

Although it is not possible to reach any other conclusion from the evidence, it is possible to ignore the evidence and mentally invent "evidence" to take the place of truth and keep it hidden. Prompted by preconceived notions set in a context of money and political influence in conjunction with investigative cowardice and incompetence, this is precisely what has been going on for over six years.

For every "could be", there is a "could be not", therefore, inconclusive until cause is known. Right? No thing is evidence until evidentiary cause is known. Right? Are we in agreement so far? If not, please point out what you think is my error in thinking, and why you think it is error.

A shoe print is found in the basement whose cause is unknown. It "could be" evidence of an intruder. "Could be not" is forgotten and "evidence" of an intruder is declared to be fact. There is a palm print with cause unknown; a rope with source unknown that "could be" something brought in by an intruder; an unidentified fiber, a baseball bat that "could have" been used by the intruder; a bit of dirt or leaves at a window well which "could have" been disturbed by an intruder. The list goes on and on and on.

This massive "evidence" stated to be more consistent with a theory of intruder than Ramsey guilt is hot air, nothing more than a string of unknowns verbally laced together on "could be", simultaneously divorced from the known, and declared to be much evidence of an intruder. Ridiculous to the max. No wonder no one will step forward and answer questions about alleged evidence of an alleged intruder. Its indefensible.

The beauty of truth is that it is consistent. Every fact is a complement of and blends with every other fact without contradiction. The presence of a contradiction is also the presence of error. Are we in agreement up to this point?


"I think he has a lot of nerve posting his thoughts when he is -- well - - he is NOT an "expert"....

Now ain't that a caution? Smile I take it you are saying that only an "expert" is qualified to post his thoughts? How about you Jameson? You post your thought don't you? Are you an "expert?"

BTW, what in the hell is an "expert" and what does "expert" have to do with fact or fiction. If an "expert" told you that pigs fly and some non expert said otherwise, would you book a flight on the next swine going south?

Let's examine your statement is considerable detail and see what it reveals.

Are you familiar with the phrase, floating abstraction? It means a thought, idea or concept that exists in the mind as a subjective and vague feeling, but is without any definitive connection to objective reality. Ergo, all thinking referenced to a floating abstraction is likewise a floating abstraction.

The term, expert, is denotive only in that it connotes knowledge and experience. Note that at this juncture, we still have a floating abstraction. To bring this down to earth, knowledge and experience must be connected to something real, i.e., to a specific area of knowledge and experience regarding specific entities and specific relationships between these entities.

By my own analysis, not of the writing, but of the mind match between the note and Patsy is clear. This is explained in my analysis of the "ransom note." So far, neither you nor anyone else has quoted and challenged it. So, to say the handwriting does not match the Ramseys, thus all Ramseys are excluded as author, is just another arbitrary declaration without substance. Note the exclusion of Ramseys necessarily depends on the intruder idea of no factual substance.

DNA? So, it does not match the family. So what? Who does it match? Unknown? If unknown, how can it be known to connect to the crime and be "evidence?" If the source of this DNA were known, then factually connected to the crime scene, then it is evidence. Absence this, it is just more speculation that caters to intruder mental creation.

Does the DNA have to be connected to the crime? Could it not be from a benign source totally removed from the crime scene? Again, the alleged evidence evidences nothing except itself with no known connection to the crime. No outsider as perpetrator is required to explain the DNA since no connection is known as crime related.

The same is true for boot print, hairs, fibers, etc.. A close look into anyone's house would most likely turn up all sorts of things whose source were unknown whether there is a crime or not. To call something whose source and cause is unknown as evidence is to say it causal related while simultaneously saying cause is unknown, thus relationship unknown; more "negative evidence." If my recollection of high school Latin is correct, this could be called "ignotium per ignotius", the unknown by the more unknown.

This "Ramsey defense" "thinking" is a direct and absurd contradiction that is without limit. With this kind of "investigative latitude", I dare say that one could "prove" anything; or at least, convince the deluded self that he or she has done so. "negative evidence?" Surely, thou jest. I repeat: All known evidence is local.


based on Delmar England's "analysis" and applying it to 15-year-old Stacy Knappenberger we conclude that her exbf must have done it.

applying actual genuine scientific principles, something neither Delmar England, nor cynic, nor trasha nor any fraud poster over at FFJ have ever read



how would you scientifically evaluate the crime scene evidence, including blood drop evidence?

after all you can't conclude finding a blood drop is evidence of an intruder, using delmar england's reasoning.

was Stacy murdered by a stranger intruder?

what conclusions would you draw if you apply the same scientific reasoning to the Jonbenet Ramsey case, and if you were a professor teaching forensics, what grade would you give Delmar England and other frauds



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Re: On the Case with Paula Zahn S16E06-Stacy's Story or why forumsforjustice Delmar England are forensic frauds

Post by TracyB on Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:54 am

I used to love paula's show. I didn't realize it was still on. Season 16? Looks like I have a lot of episodes to catch up on.

I'll never forget the episode where that girl got chased and murdered in the cemetery.

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Post by redpill on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:43 pm

TracyB wrote:I used to love paula's show. I didn't realize it was still on. Season 16? Looks like I have a lot of episodes to catch up on.

I'll never forget the episode where that girl got chased and murdered in the cemetery.

i book marked ID channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0bDsCu7UNq0Dcczgah9KXA

what happened with girl  got chased and murdered in the cemetery ?

in this case the drop of blood was entered into codis and was matched to a rapist who turned out to be her killer. it was a stranger home intruder murder.

DNA match leads to arrest in Oxnard teen's 1980 death - latimes
articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/08/local/la-me-0908-oxnard-cold-case-20120908

Sep 8, 2012 - Thomas Young Jr., 65, has been arrested on suspicion of killing Stacy Knappenberger,…. ... When 15-year-old Stacy Knappenberger was killed in 1980, Oxnard investigators were at a loss. ... Following the DNA hit, the case was assigned to the Ventura County cold case task force.

it was a black guy. they lived near one another in an apartment complex so he may have seen her, but they did not know nor recognize one another

she was murdered in 1980 but it took 2011 for DNA to advance and there was a CODIS match.


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Post by TracyB on Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:25 pm

That's how the cemetery girl's case was. They initially thought it was a boyfriend but wound up being some guy she didn't know.

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Post by redpill on Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:43 pm

TracyB wrote:That's how the cemetery girl's case was. They initially thought it was a boyfriend but wound up being some guy she didn't know.



what was she doing at a cemetry anyway was she abducted by force there or was she there and then attacked?

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Re: On the Case with Paula Zahn S16E06-Stacy's Story or why forumsforjustice Delmar England are forensic frauds

Post by TracyB on Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:46 am

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Lyn_Keen

Sad story. She had it all....until she met the wrong guy which caused everything to unravel.

Her mom must regret sending her to that group home. Bad girl or not, it wasn't the right thing to do. On the other hand, she should've listened to her mom when she forbid Jessica from seeing that loser.

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Post by redpill on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:22 pm

TracyB wrote:http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Lyn_Keen

Sad story. She had it all....until she met the wrong guy which caused everything to unravel.

Her mom must regret sending her to that group home. Bad girl or not, it wasn't the right thing to do. On the other hand, she should've listened to her mom when she forbid Jessica from seeing that loser.

ever watch the old unsolved mysteries?

i used to, back in the day

mostly i like the paranormal stuff bigfoot ufo ghosts near death reincarnation past lives esp psychic predictions Embarassed

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