my thoughts on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the fact in 2018 Easter falls on April Fools day

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my thoughts on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the fact in 2018 Easter falls on April Fools day

Post by redpill on Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:41 pm

this year, 2018 Easter falls on April Fools

when i was in junior high and high school church and Jesus was important in my life. i believed in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and told my non-believing friends they need to believe in Jesus or risk going to hell.

at any second at any minute you can die. you can die suddenly you can die from cancer, murder, car accidents, disease, die in your sleep.

you can die. also Jesus was coming at any moment and rapture away the Christians, so you better believe and accept jesus as your savior or be left behind in a world where it will be wicked and god will pour over his wrath. evidence the world is becoming more wicked a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah is evidence in a woman murdering their babies, aka abortion, which is completely legal, homosexuality, aids and the israeli-palestinian conflict. Satan will inspire a billion Muslims to wage war against god's chosen people the jews, and his chosen nation Israel.

those who actually knew me from junior high and high school knew i was something of a jesus freak. i quoted bible verses much as i now quote star wars lines to those who know.

i participated in an evangelical young group and there i was exposed to the idea of christian apologetic. c.s Lewis, josh McDowell, john ankerberg, and the idea of objective truth. that the facts of science support creationism and noah's flood represents objective scientific truth, Darwin and his theory of evolution is simply relativism, that truth is relative.

one thing the bible wasn't clear to me about is why is a physical bodily resurrection so important. what difference if you continue your life as a spirit a ghost or a flesh body that decays. what is the point of having a physical body that decays. of course the point was made that if you are resurrected, your flesh body don't get disease nor decay. so in effect it is like a ghost, but not.
and what about sex, will there be sex and sexual desire in heaven?

so i told this to atheists. one atheist pointed out if Jesus rose from the dead, why doesn't Jesus appear to each and every one of us.
why not appear right now right here, like he supposedly did for his disciples, Mary Magdalene and for Paul.

that's testing god i replied.

atheists i knew pointed out that the claim Jesus came back to life is an extraordinary claim, would you accept the claims from another religion of coming back to life, or performing miracles? of course not.

so why should we accept the claim Jesus rose from the dead, if the only witnesses of this incredible event is his disciples?

but who would die for a lie? why would the disciples of Jesus die for a lie?

but this claim isn't actually made in the bible, and secular history is silent on the claim jesus disciples died for proclaiming jesus resurrection.
in fact secular history contemporary to Jesus is silent on jesus, a fact that some atheists proclaim jesus never existed.

to be a christian is also to accept not only the claim of jesus resurrection but the entire bible as god's word.

this bible also contains passages such as this

1 Samuel 15

1 Samuel 15 New International Version (NIV)
The Lord Rejects Saul as King

15 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

4 So Saul summoned the men and mustered them at Telaim—two hundred thousand foot soldiers and ten thousand from Judah. 5 Saul went to the city of Amalek and set an ambush in the ravine. 6 Then he said to the Kenites, “Go away, leave the Amalekites so that I do not destroy you along with them; for you showed kindness to all the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt.” So the Kenites moved away from the Amalekites.

7 Then Saul attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt. 8 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword. 9 But Saul and the army spared Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves[b] and lambs—everything that was good. These they were unwilling to destroy completely, but everything that was despised and weak they totally destroyed.

10 Then the word of the Lord came to Samuel: 11 “I regret that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions.” Samuel was angry, and he cried out to the Lord all that night.

12 Early in the morning Samuel got up and went to meet Saul, but he was told, “Saul has gone to Carmel. There he has set up a monument in his own honor and has turned and gone on down to Gilgal.”

13 When Samuel reached him, Saul said, “The Lord bless you! I have carried out the Lord’s instructions.”

14 But Samuel said, “What then is this bleating of sheep in my ears? What is this lowing of cattle that I hear?”

15 Saul answered, “The soldiers brought them from the Amalekites; they spared the best of the sheep and cattle to sacrifice to the Lord your God, but we totally destroyed the rest.”

16 “Enough!” Samuel said to Saul. “Let me tell you what the Lord said to me last night.”

“Tell me,” Saul replied.

17 Samuel said, “Although you were once small in your own eyes, did you not become the head of the tribes of Israel? The Lord anointed you king over Israel. 18 And he sent you on a mission, saying, ‘Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; wage war against them until you have wiped them out.’ 19 Why did you not obey the Lord? Why did you pounce on the plunder and do evil in the eyes of the Lord?”

20 “But I did obey the Lord,” Saul said. “I went on the mission the Lord assigned me. I completely destroyed the Amalekites and brought back Agag their king. 21 The soldiers took sheep and cattle from the plunder, the best of what was devoted to God, in order to sacrifice them to the Lord your God at Gilgal.”

22 But Samuel replied:

“Does the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices
   as much as in obeying the Lord?
To obey is better than sacrifice,
   and to heed is better than the fat of rams.
23
For rebellion is like the sin of divination,
   and arrogance like the evil of idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
   he has rejected you as king.”

24 Then Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned. I violated the Lord’s command and your instructions. I was afraid of the men and so I gave in to them. 25 Now I beg you, forgive my sin and come back with me, so that I may worship the Lord.”

26 But Samuel said to him, “I will not go back with you. You have rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord has rejected you as king over Israel!”

27 As Samuel turned to leave, Saul caught hold of the hem of his robe, and it tore. 28 Samuel said to him, “The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today and has given it to one of your neighbors—to one better than you. 29 He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.”

30 Saul replied, “I have sinned. But please honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel; come back with me, so that I may worship the Lord your God.” 31 So Samuel went back with Saul, and Saul worshiped the Lord.

32 Then Samuel said, “Bring me Agag king of the Amalekites.”

Agag came to him in chains.[c] And he thought, “Surely the bitterness of death is past.”

33 But Samuel said,

“As your sword has made women childless,
   so will your mother be childless among women.”

And Samuel put Agag to death before the Lord at Gilgal.

34 Then Samuel left for Ramah, but Saul went up to his home in Gibeah of Saul. 35 Until the day Samuel died, he did not go to see Saul again, though Samuel mourned for him. And the Lord regretted that he had made Saul king over Israel.

this passage negates the claim god is a loving forgiving god, that god will forgive for those who ask for forgiveness, and contradicts jesus claim god desires mercy not sacrifice. i've listend to christians say atheists have no morality no objective moral standard, but what god and samuel describe here is a crime against humanity and a war crime.

reading this passage i'm wondering why a supposedly loving god would put that in his holy book. other christians tell me i'm not supposed to question god's wisdom, but at the same time christians told me other religion are satanic lies, filled with evil and wickedness. other religions consists of the hateful practice of idolatry and the human sacrifice of children to molech. abortion is a sacrifice to satan.

yeah but the bible itself has passages in which yahweh commands his chosen people to essentially perform a human sacrifice. and it doesn't sound like wisdom, why am i reading this ? why even say such a thing? what's the point of that passage?

i agree with atheists once you see the bible as written by primitive human beings with an agenda that the bible wasn't written or inspired by a divine being but by primitive and clearly insane men, it all makes sense.

Christians tell me that Mohammad is a false prophet, a prophet of satan, that Islam and a billion muslims will all go to hell for worshiping the false god of allah. allah is not jesus christ. the koran explicitly denies the deity of christ.

the christian claim is god has never spoken to any people other than the jews. god has never spoke to american indians or the indians of india, australian Aborigines orientals of china and japan Africans. god only spoke to the Jews. and not all Jews but only a tiny select number of jews who lived 3000 years ago. and when god does talk to the jews, in this case the prophet Samuel, his message is to exterminate all the amalekites for something their ancestors supposedly did 400 years ago.

a simply explanation is that who ever wrote that passage was hearing voices of his own hate filled imagination.

Mohammad is a false prophet what reason do i have to think samuel is a true prophet of god? if another religious book had claimed that god spoke to its prophet and this prophet inspiration was to kill all the jews would you believe it? hitler actually did claim god told him to wipe out all the jews.


i don't believe in the resurrection of jesus christ. i don't celebrate easter.

i did ask atheists, what about the after life? i can die from cancer or a car accident or a brain aneurysm, what happens to my soul, my memories my consciousness.

their reply, death is the end. no after life pale

atheists skeptics also deny near death experience ufo's and bigfoot and miracle healing so maybe if they're wrong about near death experience  ufo's bigfoot and miracle healing they may also be wrong about the afterlife

science can't explain human consciousness and free will so perhaps scientists don't know everything.

some atheists claim that death is nothing to be afraid of, but if there was a gun man shooting people dead i'm sure they would be the first one running for safety and cover.

i don't go to church so if i were to show up on church for easter i will be surrounded by complete and total strangers.

i don't believe prayer works, and god has never spoken to me at any time ever. i've never heard voices and i've never seen a miracle.

i was told jews are god's holy chosen people. they are the chosen ones. it was out of the jews the savior jesus christ came to redeem humanity of sin. then i watch ww2 movies about the holocaust and watch jews getting shot and killed, like the jew engineer getting shot and killed by amon goeth in schindler's list. i compare what happened to the jews during the holocaust with what god claims in the bible, that he will protect the jews, and there's definitely some inconsistency there. as well as the bible where god said he will have a descendant of David rule forever, but david's linage ended and died out completely. i don't believe in the bible and i don't think it's the word of god. the bible is fiction a collection of myths.

i think that in addition to the afterlife in heaven, some theists want to believe in divine justice. they want killers who are never caught, who are never identified, to face judgment before god and be damned to hell. not just the famous ones like hitler and stalin but serial killers.
the thing is if we take the bible seriously, non-christians and homosexuals will also be damned to hell. something some christians can live with.

i've asked atheists so a serial killer like the zodiac killer or Golden state killer or jack the ripper, who was never identified never caught, dies, do they get punished in any way, and the answer really is death is the same for a serial killer as it is to a saintly type.

it seems to me then that life has no meaning and at best try to get as much enjoyment before death comes. and for some enjoyment includes performing abortions, having sex with children, or murdering people, and of these get away with it. at least with abortion future serial killers are being aborted.

in the christian theist world view, evil doers will get punished, if not in this world then in the world to come. from the stand point of atheism some people clearly enjoy raping murdering robbing for money then killing, thrill killing serial killing, and if they are never caught, its the same  death for them as it is for someone law abiding and moral. death is same for nazi who murder jews in the holocaust and for jew victims. for me unless there is some afterlife i don't see the point of being moral. lots of dangerous people out there.

that Easter this year falls on april fools makes it seem like christians who go to church on april fools to celebrate the resurrection of jesus christ - alleged resurrection - are April fools day joke on them.

being a christian means worshiping a dead jew guy who lived and died some 2000 and who made claims about satan and his demons that have no verification in science.

as for what happened to Jesus body on easter sunday 2000 years ago? the only source we have are the gospels, there is no secular history contemporary account to either substantiate or contradict the gospels. and the gospels were anonymously written, and it is clear that Matthew and Luke used mark. they may have used a sayings gospel called q. there are atheists who promote jesus mythicsim, which is the claim Jesus never existed. the reason that actual historians in early Christianity reject this claim is that using the historical method and same standards of evidence, Jesus existence is attested as well as other figures of antiquity whose existence is not questioned.

at best i subscribe to new age type meditation and visualization,  similar to Justine damond, although even she got shot and killed.
i still pray to some higher entity, not the god of the bible but some entity. thus far i've not had cancer or sudden death or brain  aneurysm or invasive strep A so perhaps there is someone some entity out there listening.

I support Dan Barker's Freedom from Religion, though my interest in religion was tied to my concerns about death and life everlasting. A couple of my classmates in school died, from leukemia, another shot accidentally, another murdered.

if jesus wants me to go to church on easter he has now till Sunday to appear before me and say so.  What a Face

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