Lindsay Buziak and JonBenet Ramsey and Amy Mihaljevic part 2 additional thoughts

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Lindsay Buziak and JonBenet Ramsey and Amy Mihaljevic part 2 additional thoughts

Post by redpill on Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:38 am

Thu Jun 07, 2018

this is rdi claims

over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.


ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!


nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim
docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?



Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

this was Lindsay Elizabeth Buziak (2 November 1983 – 2 February 2008)



here's a documentary






"She received a cold call out of the blue from clients requesting to purchase a house over the weekend," said Saanich Police Sgt. Chris Horsley. "The lady phoned said 'We need to have a house set up,' some fairly specific parameters: it needed to be immediately move-in ready, had to be within 15 to 20 minutes from town. And they were looking at a home in the million-dollar range."

But was it too good to be true? Apparently, Lindsay had some doubts.

"She said 'Daddy, there's something weird I'm sensing about this,' and I said, 'Well what's going on honey?' And she said 'Well, the woman sounded weird.'"

Not at the company number on her brochures, but on her personal cellphone.

it's worth noting that  Amy Mihaljevic also received a phone call in which she was a told a story which then was lured to her death. her killer has never been identified.



Lindsay Buziak age 24 was murdered in a large million dollar home like Jonbenet Ramsey, by 2 assailants a man and a woman, and she was murdered, solely to be murdered. nothing was stolen, no sexual assault, the entire attack took 10 minutes.

no motive. it remains a fundamental fact that there is no known reason why.

applying the facts of murder of Lindsay Buziak  to age 24, since this is not logical, it must be Lindsay Buziak  parents who did it.

not logical. no explanation, therefore Lindsay Buziak  must have murdered her.

Lindsay Buziak was stabbed, according to media reports, more than 40 times in a surprise attack so lethally efficient, authorities say it had to be a hit. Her wallet, purse and cellphone were not taken, and she was not sexually assaulted.

applying what happened to Lindsay Buziak to  JonBenet Ramsey

Lindsay Buziak  was targeted to be murdered

JonBenet Ramsey  was targeted to be murdered.

the reason for Lindsay Buziak is unknown.

the reason for a "ransom note" in  JonBenet Ramsey  is to trol the police. it's a troll communication.

in the murder of  Lindsay Buziak someone left this message on a message board

On Aug. 6, that website received an unusual public posting.

“I killed Lindsey and stupid cops will never prove it so you all got nothin,” the message begins.

“No one gives a shit anymore anyhow except her crybaby dad. Even her fakey girlfriends have washed it away. Typical loser chicks. Sanich cops dropped it cause they can’t solve shit and were told to drop it,” the message reads. “Cut the phoney investigation. It’s done. Go home losers. Forget about her. The street always rules. Bitches die every day.”

Whether the startling message is a twisted prank in the harsh spirit of anonymous Internet trolls or a genuine confession from a killer is unknown.

this message is a troll communication, though it is unknown if it came from the actual killer or not,

Jeff Buziak calls for the message to be thoroughly investigated.

“I read it. I went through my various gyrations and then I copied and pasted it and sent it to police,” he said. He has not yet heard back from anyone at Saanich police, he said.

“I’m not here to debate whether the post is real or from a bad guy or not — you’ve got a lead, go investigate it and let the police determine it, not the armchair quarterbacks.”

He said there are three options.

“It’s either from the guy who’s really kind of kooking out a bit and taunting; or it’s from some crackhead; or it’s someone just fucking around. But I don’t care — I ask the police to get to the bottom of it.”

Messages left for the Saanich police, a suburb of Victoria, were not returned prior to deadline.

much like the Jonbenet Ransom note.

so in summary RDI objections


over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.


ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!


nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim
docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?



Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


what happened to Lindsay Buziak debunks these claims

Lindsay Buziak was targeted for murder in a showing of a million dollar real estate home.

there remains no known motive for Lindsay Buziak murder

but that doesn't change the fact she was murdered and by individuals inside a home

they found no forensic evidence but there's no dispute this happened inside a home in broad daylight

then possibly the killer left a troll communication.

applying these facts to Jonbenet,

Jonbenet Ramsey  was murdered by an intruder. the motive of the intruder is unclear, though certainly its possible to theorize.

the ransom note was trolling by the killer much as  Lindsay Buziak

i'm going to throw it out there

both Amy Mihaljevic and Lindsay Buziak  received a phone call, in which they were lured to their murders by unknown persons

a major mystery both in  Amy Mihaljevic and Lindsay Buziak  is just how their killer obtained their private personal number

both Lindsay Buziak and  JonBenet Ramsey were killed inside the home, by 2 highly skilled killers, hits, with troll communications

i've long suspected Jonbenet's secret visit from santa was the result of a killer calling Jonbenet telling her to leave the door open for a secret visit from Santa, which was her killer

perhaps all 3 were killed by the same person (s) ? What a Face





in light of what happened to  Lindsay Buziak

RDI are hopelessly stupid.

with any highly puzzling unsolved murder, you can second guess every decision a killer makes.

since what happened to Lindsay Buziak was a targeted killing of Lindsay Buziak for no apparent reason, it doesn't follow that therefore her father murdered her which is RDi objections applied to this crime.

JonBenet Ramsey as murdered for the same reason  Lindsay Buziak , because the killers wanted to.

JonBenet Ramsey body was hidden to delay discovery because the killers felt like doing so. because the killer wrote this ransom note, if the family immediately discovers  JonBenet Ramsey body  in a highly visible place like her bedroom, it would lesson the impact of the ransom note, which itself was a troll joke.

JonBenet Ramsey killer wrote the ransom  note to troll the Ramseys and police, just as possibly Lindsay Buziak killer left a troll message for her family.

Lindsay Buziak  makes zero sense to her family friends and Sannaich police. yet it happened. and why someone would write a troll message claiming to be the killer makes zero sense. yet it happened.

Lindsay Buziak was murdered, and the fact investigators can make zero sense out of it, does not change the fact she was murdered inside a home and there was a written communication.

here's a motive for JonBenet Ramsey, the killer fell in love with JonBenet Ramsey and was a stalker for JonBenet Ramsey. he felt if no one could have JonBenet Ramsey then JonBenet Ramsey had to die. so he kills JonBenet Ramsey, and to throw investigators off the tracks, he left a ransom note.



this sort of psychology is what motivated Jodi Arias, by her own admission, to kill her boyfriend Travis Alexander, that if she couldn't have Travis no one can.  whether by mistake or what, Jodi left a digital camera with her photos next to Travis dead body in the washing machine.  does that make sense?

reading what happened to Lindsay Buziak and Amy Mihaljevic  i'm leery of suspicious phone calls

so here's a theory

in October 27, 1989 in Bay Village Ohio

a guy who is a true crime nut calls Amy Mihaljevic by phone, tells her a story, then lures her and kills her

this guy learns of JonBenet Ramsey via child beauty pageants and realizes he wants to kill JonBenet Ramsey, after killing Amy Mihaljevic

then in Dec 1996 the same guy calls  JonBenet Ramsey claiming to be Santa Claus, then lures   JonBenet Ramsey to open the door for him and he kills her.

he moves to Sannatich Canada

there he gets a girlfriend with a foreign accent, possibly spanish speaking

he tells his girlfriend he fantasizes about stabbing someone to death and his girlfriend shares this fantasy

somehow he obtains Lindsay Buziak number and again he remembers Amy Mihaljevic, and gets his girlfriend to call Lindsay Buziak

Lindsay Buziak is lured and killed, to satisfy the urge to kill by stabbing

this killer based on his experience with  JonBenet Ramsey is careful not to leave behind dna fingerprints fiber shoeprints pale

to give an idea how stupid RDi are

ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!


there are other murders from Lindsay Buziak to Heather Coffin where an intruder did NOT remove the body from the home.

Jonbenet's killer was satisfied to simply kill Jonbenet. again, RDI cite no sources for these outlandish claims. Lindsay Buziak to Heather Coffin to the kilings of East Area Rapist and BTK, the killer DID NOT remove the body from the home.

there's no dispute that Heather Coffin was murdered by an intruder, yet the intruder didn't remove her body from the home.

RDI debunked.

when you read RDI opinions, they are opinions of ignorant and uneducated lynch mob

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