DNA is scientific evidence of an intruder JonBenet Ramsey and the power of the Daubert Side of the Foreniscs

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DNA is scientific evidence of an intruder JonBenet Ramsey and the power of the Daubert Side of the Foreniscs

Post by redpill on Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:12 pm

Thu Jun 07, 2018

over at forumsforjustice the fanatical RDI there claim the "DNA has been debunked"

they don't cite any sources of course, except perhaps James Kolar

Tricia Griffith pictured below





owner of both websleuth and forumsforjustice in her 12 days of christmas Jonbenet she has a day spent on DNA where she claims DNA is not evidence of an intruder

this is her qualifications

Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.

she does quote James Kolar,

James Kolar states there were 6 DNA profiles, and therfore if you accept one you must accept all.

James Kolar is a detective. He has no qualifications in forensic DNA analysis

James Kolar is NOT an expert witness in DNA science

While Mary Lacy is not a forensic DNA scientist, her exoneration letter makes it clear that  forensic DNA scientists were consulted in arriving at the conclusion as to the significance of DNA evidence


the standard by which expert witness are evaluated

The Court defined "scientific methodology" as the process of formulating hypotheses and then conducting experiments to prove or falsify the hypothesis, and provided a set of illustrative factors (i.e., not a "test") in determining whether these criteria are met:

Whether the theory or technique employed by the expert is generally accepted in the scientific community;
Whether it has been subjected to peer review and publication;
Whether it can be and has been tested;
Whether the known or potential rate of error is acceptable; and
Whether the research was conducted independent of the particular litigation or dependent on an intention to provide the proposed testimony.[4]

forensic dna evidence meets the daubert standard.

the second question then is who is qualiifed to comment as to the signifance of DNA evidence that was identified in

Relevance and reliability: This requires the trial judge to ensure that the expert's testimony is "relevant to the task at hand" and that it rests "on a reliable foundation". Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharms., Inc., 509 U.S. 579, 584-587. Concerns about expert testimony cannot be simply referred to the jury as a question of weight. Furthermore, the admissibility of expert testimony is governed by Rule 104(a), not Rule 104(b); thus, the Judge must find it more likely than not that the expert's methods are reliable and reliably applied to the facts at hand.
Scientific knowledge = scientific method/methodology: A conclusion will qualify as scientific knowledge if the proponent can demonstrate that it is the product of sound "scientific methodology" derived from the scientific method.

the Daubert trilogy


   Rule 702. Testimony by Experts
   If scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will assist the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue, a witness qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education, may testify thereto in the form of an opinion or otherwise, if (1) the testimony is based upon sufficient facts or data, (2) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods, and (3) the witness has applied the principles and methods reliably to the facts of the case.

there is DNA found on Jonbenet

what is the significance of this DNA and is this DNA evidence of an intruder

for that we need to consult with a DNA expert who meets criteria 1-3
Lawyer Paul Campos claims about Mary Lacy exoneration letter is absurd on the grounds that Paul Campos studied Shakespeare and has a degree in English literature, and as a lawyer he should know of Daubert standard


Mary Lacy does not identify the actual names of these experts who were consulted.

However one DNA expert who was consulted has come forward

 Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky





the significance of the DNA found on Jonbenet Ramsey is

intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet".

ref Jennifer Kovaleski (September 6, 2016). "New details revealed about JonBenet Ramsey's murder in A&E documentary". Retrieved September 30, 2016.

these are his credentials

Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay


Education

Post-Doc    -   Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
                      (Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD  -  The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
                    (Biology)
1971  MA    -   City College of New York (Biology)
1969  BS    -   City College of New York (Biology)
Bio

My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology.  My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of  Short Tandam Repeats (STRs).  We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence.  Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway.  We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from  China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
Download C.V.
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky

DNA evidence is evidence that meets the Daubert Standard.

Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is an expert witness in DNA science under Daubert.

He was consulted as to testify as an expert witness on the significance of this DNA found on Jonbenet in the crime scene.

It is evidence of an intruder



Tricia Griffith





James kolar et al, are fundamentaly deceiving the public as to the evidence of an intruder. they are lying. they are engaging in deception.

the scientific expert witness testimony on the DNA found on Jonbenet is that it is scientific evidence an intruder murdered Jonbenet.

tricia griffith created websleuth and forumsforjustice with the goal to inform the public about Jonbenet.  If you’re going to create such a forum informing the public, inform them correctly.

RDI whether on topix, forumsforjustice, websleuth, reddit youtube comments, who do not use Daubert, or who disregard scientific expert wintess testimony the said evidence, are fundamentally mistaken.

in this post, I am informing the public,

scientific expert witness testimony as to the significance of the DNA found on Jonbenet Ramsey

intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet".


when you read RDI posters on websleuth forumsforjustice reddit topix etc who claim the DNA is not evidence of an intruder,

do they have qualifications comparable to this



Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay


Education

Post-Doc    -   Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
                      (Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD  -  The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
                    (Biology)
1971  MA    -   City College of New York (Biology)
1969  BS    -   City College of New York (Biology)
Bio

My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology.  My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of  Short Tandam Repeats (STRs).  We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence.  Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway.  We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from  China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
Download C.V.
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky

and are they familair with the actual case facts of the trial?

the answer is of course no.

while Henry Lee does have a comparable CV, in his claims in CBS the Case of, he shows no knowledge of the conclusions of forensic document examinars, he provided no scientific demonstrations on how, if the DNA came from a factory worker on Jonbenet's panties, it was then transferred to her longjohns, and he claims there was no sexual assault on Jonbenet. Henry Lee is a crimianlist, but not a pathologist, and the conclusions of the pathologist on autospy was Jonbenet was sexually assaulted, as Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky observed.

the DNA found on Jonbenet is understood in the context of a sexual assault, which pathologists have concluded on reviewing the autopsy and specifically the injuries and foreign material in Jonbenet's vagina

to summarize the the power of the Daubert Side of the Foreniscs

when it comes to the question did John or Ramsey write the ransom note,

all 6 foresnic document examiners who meet the daubert standard by studying the originals eliminated John Ramsey
and Patsy Ramsey


Richard Dusak & Edwin F. Alford, Jr.

Richard Dusak


Richard Dusak wrote:
  Dusak Findings. "Richard Dusick (sic) of the U.S. Secret Service concluded that there was "no evidence to indicate that Patsy Ramsey executed any of the questioned material appearing on the Ransom Note." (SMF P 200; PSMF P 200.)" (Carnes 2003:26, note 14).

Edwin F. Alford, Jr.



Edwin F. Alford, Jr.

"Examination of the questioned handwriting and comparison with the handwriting specimens submitted has failed to provide a basis for identifying Patricia Ramsey as the writer of the letter.

since Patsy Ramsey has been eliminated with an ASTM score of 8 or 9

forensic linguistics Gerald McMerminn also eliminated Patsy Ramsey as the author using forensic linguistics

this leaves that an intruder wrote the ransom note, and this is established using scientific examination of forensic documents, using scientific methodology and scientific expert witnesses

the DNA evidence

intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet". Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky

this is the code of ethics

Brent Turvey outlines the code of ethics


Brent Turvey wrote:
Maintain an attitude of professionalism and integrity.
Conduct all research in a generally accepted scientific manner.
Assign appropriate credit for the ideas of others that are used.
Treat all information (not in the public domain) from a client or agency in a confidential manner, unless specific permission to disseminate information is obtained.
Maintain an attitude of independence and impartiality in order to ensure an unbiased analysis and interpretation of the evidence.
Strive to avoid preconceived ideas or biases regarding potential suspects or offenders from influencing a final profile or crime analysis when appropriate.
Render opinions and conclusions strictly in accordance with the evidence in the case.
Not exaggerate, embellish, or otherwise misrepresent qualifications when testifying, or at any other time, in any form.
Testify in an honest, straightforward manner and refuse to extend their opinion beyond their field of competence, phrasing testimony in a manner intended to avoid misinterpretation of their opinion.
Not use a profile or crime analysis (the inference of Offender or Crime Scene Characteristics) for the purposes of suggesting the guilt or innocence of a particular individual for a particular crime.
Make efforts to inform the court of the nature and implications of pertinent evidence if reasonably assured that this information will not be disclosed in court.
Maintain the quality and standards of the professional community by reporting unethical conduct to the appropriate authorities or professional organizations. (Turvey 1999: 722)

of these


Maintain an attitude of professionalism and integrity.

Conduct all research in a generally accepted scientific manner.

Maintain an attitude of independence and impartiality in order to ensure an unbiased analysis and interpretation of the evidence.

Render opinions and conclusions strictly in accordance with the evidence in the case.

scientific expert witness have weighed in as to the significance of the forensic evidence collected in the crime scene and the conclusion is an intruder murdered Jonbenet Ramsey, based on the scientific forensic evidence collected

any RDI who contradicts this claim whether forumsforjustice websleuth tricia griffith cherokee ukguy superdave etc are fundamentally misinforming the public, lying deceiving and obstructing justice for Jonbenet

IDI longtimer Jameson is vindicated

this is Tricia Griffith





this is her CV


Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.

this is Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky





Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay


Education

Post-Doc    -   Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
                      (Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD  -  The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
                    (Biology)
1971  MA    -   City College of New York (Biology)
1969  BS    -   City College of New York (Biology)
Bio

My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology.  My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of  Short Tandam Repeats (STRs).  We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence.  Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway.  We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from  China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
Download C.V.
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky

Tricia Griffith uses her forums to claim there's no evidence of an intruder, including the DNA. she disregards actual genuine DNA experts who have actual training in DNA science, and then claims this is "justice"

Testify in an honest, straightforward manner and refuse to extend their opinion beyond their field of competence, phrasing testimony in a manner intended to avoid misinterpretation of their opinion.


RDI are an anti-science lynch mob

Jameson is right. an intruder did enter the Ramsey home and murder Jonbenet Ramsey. this conclusion is the conclusion of actual scientific expert witnesses who evaluated the scientific evidence.

the other evidence found at the crime scene, that is unsourced to the Ramsey home, is, using science, understood in light of both forensic document examination and DNA. the hi-tech shoe print found near Jonbenet's body is evidence of an intruder wearing hi-tech shoes.

the unsourced fibers and animal hair found at the crime scene is evidence of an intruder, and supports both the forensic DNA and document examination.

the tape and ligature and specific injuries to Jonbenet is also evidence of an intruder. all these evidence is evidence of an intruder.



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Re: DNA is scientific evidence of an intruder JonBenet Ramsey and the power of the Daubert Side of the Foreniscs

Post by MurderMysteryReader on Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:36 am

Yes, Jameson is right and always was. I have believed it was someone else that entered the home and did it all and not the Ramsey's. It was always a gut feeling but backed up by the evidence unsourced to the Ramsey's. The RDI deny the evidence because it isn't linked to the Ramsey's and points to someone other than them.
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