Jayme Closs home intruder Jake Thomas Patterson & RDI claims on The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

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Jayme Closs home intruder Jake Thomas Patterson & RDI claims on The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

Post by redpill on Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:33 pm

Sat Jan 12, 2019

these are RDI claims



over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.


ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!


nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim
docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


how well do these claims stand in comparison to an actual home intruder crimes?


this is Jayme Closs a victim of an actual home invading home intruder



her crime is an actual example of a home intruder, home invader

at the crime scene they found both parents shot to death. is their deaths evidence of an intruder?

they found shell cases, are these evidence of an intruder?

nothing else was stolen, though Jayme was missing, and no other forensic evidence was found.

is this evidence of an intruder.

after 88 days she esacped form Jake Thomas Patterson 21

his actual reason for home invasion, home intruder, the reason he murdered Jayme's parents, and Jayme was 13

searchinGirl wrote:It appears he took her to be his bride.

is this logical?

is it logical for a 21 year old man to be interested in a 13 year old girl, abduct her in the middle of the night, gun down her parents in murder, then steal her while causing a news headline to marry her?

yet that's the choice Jake Thomas Patterson 21 made as an actual example of a home invader home intruder.

maybe Jonbenet's killer wanted Jonbenet to be his child bride, and the ransom note was b.s to mislead investigators, and he killed her when she said no.

there, a simple logical explanation for body and ransom note.







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Post by searchinGirl on Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:17 pm

The Jayme Closs story reminds me a little bit of the Keri Swenson story...

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-10/news/vw-2601_1_kari-swenson

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Post by redpill on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:00 pm

searchinGirl wrote:The Jayme Closs story reminds me a little bit of the Keri Swenson story...

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-10/news/vw-2601_1_kari-swenson

i saw that story on the ID channel, lol

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Post by searchinGirl on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:06 pm

I remember it hitting a little bit closer to home because a friend’s sister was a biathlete living in Jackson Hole in the late 80s. I guess she trained for ‘88 Olympics. Kind of brave, kind of scary.

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Post by redpill on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:31 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I remember it hitting a little bit closer to home because a friend’s sister was a biathlete living in Jackson Hole in the late 80s. I guess she trained for ‘88 Olympics. Kind of brave, kind of scary.

small world it sounds

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Post by searchinGirl on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:38 pm

Yeah it does. Jayme’s story is truly remarkable.

I’ve been kind of blue today over the state of the JBR case. I’ve been reading some of your history here today. I don’t know how you actually feel about things. Your thinking is clear. For myself, know I can’t change anyone’s mind or anything but it’s rather odd that people like you and me (IDI) are the “bad guys” in terms of wanting the JBR case to be solved.

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Post by redpill on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:44 pm

searchinGirl wrote:Yeah it does. Jayme’s story is truly remarkable.

I’ve been kind of blue today over the state of the JBR case. I’ve been reading some of your history here today. I don’t know how you actually feel about things. Your thinking is clear. For myself, know I can’t change anyone’s mind or anything but it’s rather odd that people like you and me (IDI) are the “bad guys” in terms of wanting the JBR case to be solved.

i've been banned from reddit /jbr for being a "spammer"

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