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Post by redpill on Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:52 pm

Mon Feb 25, 2019

Suspect


these RDI claims



over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.


ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!


nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim
docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?


the IDI explanation is that he wanted to.

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

i just watched ID Your Worst Nightmare

YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE S5 • E8
Behind the Barn



Your Worst Nightmare
Published on Feb 23, 2019
20-year-old Kristy Ray is living at home and working her way through college until one day when she is shockingly abducted. Local law enforcement will need the help of the FBI and community members as they race to find Kristy before time runs out.

it's about Murder of Kristy Ray by Charles Ray Crawford

Kristy Ray 20

Kristy Ray Birth Nov 26 1972
Stuttgart, Stadtkreis Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Death Jan 30 1993 (aged 20)

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I've never heard of this case, this crime, this murder before

Kristy Ray returns home from work, video rental store

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in her home was this

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her mother returns home and finds this

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a handwritten ransom note by a home intruder, demanding money.

well they caught the guy

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they interviewed him

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this crime happened in 1993 3 years before The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

this is an actual home invading home intruder of a 20 year old white female with a ransom note, a handwritten ransom note demanding money.

he was captured and he admit he did not know, nor did the family know him. he did know Kristy through her employment at a video store rental.

While the ransom note wanted money and promised her safe return alive,

his actual motive was sexual, he raped her then stabbed her in the heart. kinda like that case in wisconsin Jayme Closs

so when your read RDI claims,

in this crime Kristy Ray's killer had a handwritten ransom note demanding ransom money for safe return but his actual motive was sexual, rape.



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Post by MurderMysteryReader on Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:09 am

I watched this episode and it was very good. Another example that supports IDI theory in JonBenet Ramsey case. I didn't watch much content on ID until I started reading this blog.

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Post by redpill on Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:25 am

MurderMysteryReader wrote:I watched this episode and it was very good. Another example that supports IDI theory in JonBenet Ramsey case. I didn't watch much content on ID until I started reading this blog.

wow, blast from the past.

where've u been all these years?

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