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"Use that good southern common sense of yours" Silence of the Lambs

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Post by redpill Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:30 am

Sun Jun 16, 2019

What a Face

the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note says

"Use that good southern common sense of yours"

i have a suspicion the idea for this quote comes from Silence of the Lambs

specifically,

Hannibel Lecter talks to Clarice Starling who is Southerner, from West Virginia



Dr. Hannibal Lecter: You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia. What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.

Clarice Starling: You see a lot, Doctor. But are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself? What about it? Why don't you - why don't you look at yourself and write down what you see? Or maybe you're afraid to.



Dr. Hannibal Lecter: Why do you think he removes their skins, Agent Starling? Enthrall me with your acumen.

Clarice Starling: It excites him. Most serial killers keep some sort of trophies from their victims.

Dr. Hannibal Lecter: I didn't.

Clarice Starling: No. No, you ate yours.


Hannibal Lecter: I will listen now. After your father's murder, you were orphaned. You were ten years old. You went to live with cousins on a sheep and horse ranch in Montana. And...?
Clarice Starling: [tears begin forming in her eyes] And one morning, I just ran away.
Hannibal Lecter: No "just", Clarice. What set you off? You started at what time?
Clarice Starling: Early, still dark.
Hannibal Lecter: Then something woke you, didn't it? Was it a dream? What was it?
Clarice Starling: I heard a strange noise.
Hannibal Lecter: What was it?
Clarice Starling: It was... screaming. Some kind of screaming, like a child's voice.
Hannibal Lecter: What did you do?
Clarice Starling: I went downstairs, outside. I crept up into the barn. I was so scared to look inside, but I had to.
Hannibal Lecter: And what did you see, Clarice? What did you see?
Clarice Starling: Lambs. The lambs were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: They were slaughtering the spring lambs?
Clarice Starling: And they were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: And you ran away?
Clarice Starling: No. First I tried to free them. I... I opened the gate to their pen, but they wouldn't run. They just stood there, confused. They wouldn't run.
Hannibal Lecter: But you could and you did, didn't you?
Clarice Starling: Yes. I took one lamb, and I ran away as fast as I could.
Hannibal Lecter: Where were you going, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: I don't know. I didn't have any food, any water and it was very cold, very cold. I thought, I thought if I could save just one, but... he was so heavy. So heavy. I didn't get more than a few miles when the sheriff's car picked me up. The rancher was so angry he sent me to live at the Lutheran orphanage in Bozeman. I never saw the ranch again.
Hannibal Lecter: What became of your lamb, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: They killed him.


Hannibal Lecter: You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.

Clarice Starling: Yes.

Hannibal Lecter: And you think if you save poor Catherine, you could make them stop, don't you? You think if Catherine lives, you won't wake up in the dark ever again to that awful screaming of the lambs.

Hannibal Lecter: First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
Clarice Starling: He kills women...
Hannibal Lecter: No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does, what need does he serve by killing?
Clarice Starling: Anger, social resentment, sexual frustration...
Hannibal Lecter: No, he covets. That's his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer.
Clarice Starling: No. We just...
Hannibal Lecter: No. Precisely. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? And don't your eyes move over the things you want?


i suspect that the sentence "Use that good southern common sense of yours"

is based on



Dr. Hannibal Lecter: You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia. What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.

West Virginia are southerners and

Dr. Hannibal Lecter: Why do you think he removes their skins, Agent Starling? Enthrall me with your acumen.

Hannibal Lecter asks Clarice to "Enthrall me with your acumen" = "Use that good southern common sense of yours"

not a direct quote but similar ideas. in literary analysis it's called a literary allusion.

the ransom note is alluding to Silence of the Lambs dialogue between Hannibal Lector and Clarice Sterling

the ransom amount of $118, 000, which while equal to John's bonus, is also the run time of silence of the lambs movie at 118 minutes.

the author is thinking himself Hannibel Lecter and inviting FBI agents to psychoanalyze him

John Ramsey isn't a southerner, though Patsy is also from West Virginia. Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:11 am

Wow. This is good. I have to think about this. Our killer watches a lot of movies I think. Maybe it’s just me and my video store days, but I think all the movie references point to child porn. A film maker.

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Post by redpill Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:15 am

searchinGirl wrote:Wow. This is good. I have to think about this. Our killer watches a lot of movies I think. Maybe it’s just me and my video store days, but I think all the movie references point to child porn. A film maker.

well thanks, in an earlier thread murdermysteryreader identified the line from the deer hunter, it's up to you now.


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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:37 am

I haven’t watched the Deer Hunter in a long time. But I remember her posting about it. I think the Ransom Note has more movie clues than we presently realize.

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Post by redpill Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:21 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I haven’t watched the Deer Hunter in a long time. But I remember her posting about it. I think the Ransom Note has more movie clues than we presently realize.

if you search this blog i also posted on Die Hard (1988), the Usual Suspects, 1995 the Rock, 7 June 1996 and The Fugitive (1993), all action thrillers aired before Dec 1996


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