Mr. Cruel I will call you between 8am to 10am jonbenet body and ransom note

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Mr. Cruel I will call you between 8am to 10am jonbenet body and ransom note

Post by redpill on Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:24 am

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for background

I believe home-invading serial pedophile and killer Mr. Cruel murdered Jonbenet Ramse

the RN says

. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery.

why would Mr. Cruel write this? simple, b/c he was writing it in the early morning hours and knew he had to be at the Denver international airport by 8am on Dec 26 to catch a 10am flight to Melbourne, an 18 hour flight.

therefore the numbers 8am 10am and 118 100k + 18 were all on his mind

arrives at denver airport at 8am for check in, flight departs 10am

melbourne airport arrives, travel takes 18 hours of flight

over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.

ukguy wrote:
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!

nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim
docg wrote:


An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.


No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

two sets of issue, why write a ransom note, and why leave the body?

first issue, why leave the body? b/c he had no place to hide the body. he had to hurry to arrive at the Denver airport at 8am to catch the 10am flight out to Melbourne. He knows from watching movies like The Fugitive and from Aussie crimes like Eloise Worledge and Bonnie clark that if you leave the body in the family home, they become the prime suspects.

second issue, why write a ransom note?

bc he wanted to
bc he thought it be funny
bc he wanted to pull a prank
bc he he wanted to troll the R's, FBI and LE
bc that is his signature. in his known home invading crimes he asks or pretends to want money and has asked for ransom money so as to mislead both the family and LE that his intention is kidnapping for ransom money, not sexual gratification.
bc with Karmein Chan he left writing a hand written message payback asian drug dealers more and more to come, and that message caused the Chan family to create a suspicion they were drug dealers. worked perfectly.

mr cruel left a handwritten message on this victim home

as a result of mr cruel's action her parents

became the prime suspects! there were rumors they were drug dealers and that karmein was stolen for drug dealer debt. So mr cruel learns the power of leaving written messages that make no sense, in getting the parents implicated.

conclusion - mr cruel had no intention of calling between 8 am and 10am, instead those numbers along with 118 were on his mind due to his schedule.

mr cruel left the body and ransom note b/c this was a thrill kill, he may have filmed a snuff film of jonbenet. once jonbenet was dead he had no further use for the body and the best way to cover his tracks is to leave the body in the home.

he wrote the rn b/c he wanted to, he thought itd be funny, he'd wanted to feel like a movie star, and his signature is to make ransom demands, and he knows from his previous crimes that written messages throw investigators off the scent.

mr cruel left a body and ransom note to cover his tracks and for these stupid idiot rdi's it worked perfectly.

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