Project Tricia Griffith rebuttal: neither Tricia nor forumsforjustice has ever studied forensics

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Project Tricia Griffith rebuttal: neither Tricia nor forumsforjustice has ever studied forensics

Post by redpill on Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:23 pm

Tricia Griffith uses 2 forums, websleuths and forumsforjustice to promote an anti-science fringe agenda on the Jonbenet Ramsey case




this is her claim

tricia griffith wrote:

Forums for Justice.org would like to ask Mary Lacy one final question; WHAT ABOUT THE 2 1/2 PAGE RANSOM NOTE. The note has been matched to Patsy Ramsey's handwriting by several well respected handwriting analysts.


it is worth noting that no one at forumsforjustice, not cynic cherokee et al, ever provided tricia the correct answer. which means they're as dumb as she is.

she had previously written "the truth about the carnes decision" over at forumsforjustice


here is her petition
tricia griffith wrote:

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?3096-FFJ-Ramsey-Case-Petition-Presented-to-Governor-Owens-of-Colorado-on-April-30-2004

FFJ Ramsey Case Petition - Presented to Governor Owens of Colorado on April 30, 2004

   We encourage everyone who believes in fair and equal justice to sign our petition asking for a special prosecutor in the JonBenet Ramsey case.

   When you sign our petition you have to put down a name and a real email. No free email addresses allowed. You will have an option of hiding your email from public view. Your email will not be sold or otherwise disclosed to anyone.

   Please take a moment and read the petition below with the link to the petition site. The next post is the official "Press Release". Don't hesitate to notify anyone you know in the media about our cause.

   Anyone on the internet has my full permission to take the press release and petition to post elsewhere as long as you post both in their entirety with no changes whatsoever. The link to the petition site must be included.

   Thank you.

   Tricia Griffith
   Owner, Forums for Justice

Here is the text of the letter presented to Governor Owens.

April 30th 2004

Dear Governor Owens,

On behalf of the over 350 members world wide of Forums for Justice, I thank
you for taking the time to look at our petition concerning the JonBenet
Murder investigation.


Many years ago Author Aldous Huxley said:
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."

If Huxley hadn't died in 1963 I would assume he was talking about the JonBenet Ramsey case.

JonBenet Ramsey deserves to have, once and for all, an unbiased team to investigate her murder.

The law is on your side. (Pease v. District Court, 708 P.2d 800 Colo. 1985)
In fact the law dictates that your only choice is to appoint a special prosecutor in the Ramsey case.

Governor Owens, even if the law didn’t require you to take the case away from the obviously biased Mary Keenan you still would have the power to do the right thing.

Common sense dictates that if a prosecutor investigating a case is communicating with and reacting to threats from a civil defense attorney who also happens to represent the only people left under the umbrella of suspicion, this prosecutor must be relieved of the case

Common decency and ethics dictates that if a prosecutor agrees (and so states publicly) with a ruling in a civil trail where the only evidence presented was what the “umbrella” people’s civil attorney presented to the judge, then this prosecutor has thoroughly compromised both herself and the case and she cannot be allowed to EVER prosecute this case if it should come to trial.

I would hope that you felt deep righteous indignation when Mary Keenan hired the one investigator that not only refused to look at the evidence but also prayed with the “umbrella’ people on several occasions. This same detective refused to believe these “good Christians” would have anything to do with this crime and appeared on several television documentaries to advocate for the “umbrella” people. I can only hope that you felt as outraged as others did when it was announced that Lou Smit was hired to help Keenan with the investigation. That is akin to hiring the fox to watch the hen house.

Governor Owens recently the Ramsey’s civil attorney the members of Forums for Justice “insignificant” and “obsessed.” Interesting. When did it become a bad thing to care about a murdered child? The Ramseys asked for help finding the “real killer” of their daughter in their live CNN interview on January 1, 1997. I would have thought his clients would appreciate we are actually doing something.

We are not arrogant people; we do not think we are investigators who are in a position to “find” the killer of their daughter and “solve” this case. We are, however, a formidable group of people from all walks of life. You might even know people who participate in Forums for Justice’s criminal discussion. They just haven’t told you they do. We are neither insignificant nor obsessed. We simply care about a little girl who ended up dead on Christmas night 1996 in the basement of her parents’ home.

We all came together for one reason - to discuss the JonBenet Ramsey murder. We would not know each other otherwise. The members of Forums for Justice.org have chosen to become more active and involved. We will never interfere but we will speak our minds. It’s the least we can do for JonBenet Ramsey.

Please I implore you Governor Owens. Look at the picture on the front of this folder. Don’t you think this sweet girl who never saw her 7th birthday deserves to rest in peace and have her killer behind bars? We do. That’s why we present you with our petition today.


"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."

So many things were done wrong for her. You are the only left who can do something right. Deep down you must know this too.

Please Governor Owens, appoint a special prosecutor in the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation. She deserves nothing less.

Sincerely
Tricia Griffith and the members of Forums for Justice.org

Here is the letter that Cynthia Honssinger recieved from us today.

May 5, 2004

Cynthia S. Honssinger
Chief Counsel to Governor Bill Owens
120 State Capital
Denver, CO 80203

Dear Ms. Honssinger:

On behalf of the members of Forums for Justice.org, I want to thank you for taking the time to meet with our group on April 30. The welcome we received from the people we met in Colorado was positive and quite overwhelming

We understand your time is limited. We would, however, appreciate an update at your earliest convenience on the status of the petition we presented to you last week requesting the appointment of a special prosecutor in the JonBenet Ramsey case.

If the Governor still does not feel compelled to appoint a special prosecutor at this time, I ask to be informed in writing, with a full explanation of the reason(s) for his denial of the request, so that I may correctly communicate the decision to the members of FFJ. My mailing address is at the bottom of the page.

I have enclosed some responses to our meeting from FFJ’s members. One of these is a particularly meaningful and well-reasoned response, written by someone whose career has been in the legal field. I believe you will find it compelling.

On one final note, the DVD I gave you called “Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey” came from a Mr. Darnay Hoffman. He was the attorney for Chris Wolf who sued the Ramseys and lost. The DVD was a product of that lawsuit.

Sincerely,

Tricia Griffith,
Owner Forums for Justice.org



this is tricia griffith



given the above claims and especially

tricia griffith wrote:

Forums for Justice.org would like to ask Mary Lacy one final question; WHAT ABOUT THE 2 1/2 PAGE RANSOM NOTE. The note has been matched to Patsy Ramsey's handwriting by several well respected handwriting analysts.



and i am also including forumsforjustice members like cynic cherokee et al,

in all those years - the above letter dated 2004

tricia griffith has never gone to the library and study



she has never studied the forensic science relevant to this case. never. not once. ever. and not just her, but her thugs over at forumsforjustice like cynic and cherokee.

she claims to be seeking justice and facts, but she's never actually studied the facts and studied forensics.



tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.

No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.

As owner, I do my best to stay out of actual discussions about a crime.

The JBR case is the one expection.

Websleuths is a leader in true crime information as well as discussion. People come here to get information. It is imperative we deal with the facts. Not fantasy.

All I ask for are facts and a logical connecting of the dots. Logic and facts.

When I get time I will be going through the forum to make sure the JonBenet Ramsey forum is being held up to the high standards just like all our other forums on Websleuths.

The days of allowing anyone to post anything because it's part of their "theory" are gone. Facts and logic. Very simple.


apparently this person



not only has never studied the relevant forensics, she's never studied the relevant facts
Mark Beckner wrote:

• On possible sources of unidentified DNA on JonBenet's clothing: "Manufacturing process is one. Interactions with other people is another. Intentional placement is another. Belongs to an intruder is another. Yes, you can often tell where DNA comes from. In this case, it is small enough that it is difficult to tell. CBI thought it was either sweat or saliva."

• "The suspect is the donator of that unknown DNA, and until you can prove otherwise, I think that's the way you've got to look at it."

tricia griffith is juvenile  immature and intellectually dishonest and pretentious.

she has never studied the forensics. the question she asked proves she is ignorant of the most basic aspects of the relevant forensics in the case. in all these years she has followed the case, it never occurred to her to simply go to a bookstore and purchase the books that detail the relevant forensics. and her fellow posters at forumsforjustice and websleuth haven't either.

for someone who has never studied the relevant forensics, and is unfamiliar with the relevant facts,  she is complaining in her petition about a lack of justice. speaking of justice, my petition is for tricia griffith and cynic and cherokee to study the relevant facts and forensics before continuing their immature juvenile tripe.

those books and others will answer your question.

as far as facts are concerned, it is a fact that the so-called handwriting experts who claim a match to patsy's handwritings are, in fact, unqualified. you would know this if you had done your due diligence and taken the time to actually research the relevant forensics. you cynic cherokee et al, owe Mary Lacy, Julie Carnes, and the Ramsey's an apology. Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven

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