What is scientifc evidence of an intruder in the Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
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What is scientifc evidence of an intruder in the Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
Wed Feb 20, 2019
the most common RDI claim is "there is no evidence of an intruder"
the obvious question this remark raises is
What is scientific evidence of an intruder in the Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
how to approach this question using science and the scientific method.
how do you determine what is and is not evidence of an intruder using science.
science, esp forensic science is empirical
Empirical evidence
science is based on observation
what kind of data, observation, empirical evidence would be relevant in determining whether an intruder is involved in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey using science.
here's a simple proposal.
why not look at crimes in which there was an intruder, a home invading intruder, and observe what evidence was left behind.
Joseph James DeAngelo was an actual example of a home intruder, sex offender and killer.
at the home crime scenes that Joseph James DeAngelo entered as the golden state killer
they found ligature, specifically shoe laces
that he, Joseph James DeAngelo brought into the home, tied his victims and then left it when he left the home.
is ligature evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
what about ligature on Jonbenet?
they found tape in some of the crime scenes.
is tape evidence of an intruder
they found fibers, animal hair
are the fibers left behind evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
they found this
are shoe prints left behind evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
what about shoe prints that are unmatched in the Jonbenet crime scene, specifically the hi-tech shoe print
how would you evaluate the intruder evidence found at intruder crime scenes such as golden state kiler/east area rapist Joseph James DeAngelo and how does it compare to what RDI do in the The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
for example, with shoe prints
since you can't prove that an intruder left it, or that shoe print wasn't already at the crime scene before the crime was committed, or a police officer didn't leave it there, it is no evidence of an intruder
and
you can't prove that wasn't staged so therefore that is no evidence of an intruder or
since it was not sourced to anything therefore it is not evidence of an intruder.
is this how science deals with scientific evidence?
of course not.
since we know that an intruder entered the crime scenes and left all that evidence behind after the crime, all of that is intruder evidence.
once you understand this consider forumsforjustice fraud delmar england
when we look at other crime scenes involving an intruder, such as the Joseph James DeAngelo / East area rapist or BTK Dennis Raider
they find ligature, shoe prints, tape, fibers hair and other trace evidence unsourced to the home.
what did they find in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
what delmar england is calling ridiculous to the max is called science, using scientific methodology and scientific reasoning and scientific observation on scientific evidence
so when an RDI like tricia griffith says
pictured below are 2 RDI
David Hughes and Tricia Grifith
these 2 RDI posters have stated variations of
"there is no evidence of an intruder" or "handwriting matches Patsy"
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is what she claims
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?76520-Patsy-Ramsey/page92
this is Tricia Grifith qualifications
Tricia Griffith is veteran radio disc jockey
this compared to
since intruders in other cases such as the east area rapist and BTK and Mr Cruel brought certain items with them to crime scene, ligature tape left behind shoe prints and trace evidence
and this same evidence was found in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey
it is by definition evidence of an intruder, certainly more than a "scintilla" of evidence.
RDI are complete scientific failures.
the most common RDI claim is "there is no evidence of an intruder"
the obvious question this remark raises is
What is scientific evidence of an intruder in the Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
how to approach this question using science and the scientific method.
how do you determine what is and is not evidence of an intruder using science.
science, esp forensic science is empirical
empirical
based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.
"they provided considerable empirical evidence to support their argument"
Empirical evidence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence
Empirical evidence is the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation.[1] The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría).
science is based on observation
Observation is the active acquisition of information from a primary source. In living beings, observation employs the senses. In science, observation can also involve the recording of data via the use of scientific instruments. The term may also refer to any data collected during the scientific activity.
what kind of data, observation, empirical evidence would be relevant in determining whether an intruder is involved in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey using science.
here's a simple proposal.
why not look at crimes in which there was an intruder, a home invading intruder, and observe what evidence was left behind.
Joseph James DeAngelo was an actual example of a home intruder, sex offender and killer.
at the home crime scenes that Joseph James DeAngelo entered as the golden state killer
they found ligature, specifically shoe laces
that he, Joseph James DeAngelo brought into the home, tied his victims and then left it when he left the home.
is ligature evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
what about ligature on Jonbenet?
they found tape in some of the crime scenes.
is tape evidence of an intruder
they found fibers, animal hair
are the fibers left behind evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
they found this
are shoe prints left behind evidence of an intruder, given this is what intruder Joseph James DeAngelo brought with him and left it at the crime scene?
what about shoe prints that are unmatched in the Jonbenet crime scene, specifically the hi-tech shoe print
how would you evaluate the intruder evidence found at intruder crime scenes such as golden state kiler/east area rapist Joseph James DeAngelo and how does it compare to what RDI do in the The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
for example, with shoe prints
since you can't prove that an intruder left it, or that shoe print wasn't already at the crime scene before the crime was committed, or a police officer didn't leave it there, it is no evidence of an intruder
and
you can't prove that wasn't staged so therefore that is no evidence of an intruder or
since it was not sourced to anything therefore it is not evidence of an intruder.
is this how science deals with scientific evidence?
of course not.
since we know that an intruder entered the crime scenes and left all that evidence behind after the crime, all of that is intruder evidence.
once you understand this consider forumsforjustice fraud delmar england
or every "could be", there is a "could be not", therefore, inconclusive until cause is known. Right? No thing is evidence until evidentiary cause is known. Right? Are we in agreement so far? If not, please point out what you think is my error in thinking, and why you think it is error.
A shoe print is found in the basement whose cause is unknown. It "could be" evidence of an intruder. "Could be not" is forgotten and "evidence" of an intruder is declared to be fact. There is a palm print with cause unknown; a rope with source unknown that "could be" something brought in by an intruder; an unidentified fiber, a baseball bat that "could have" been used by the intruder; a bit of dirt or leaves at a window well which "could have" been disturbed by an intruder. The list goes on and on and on.
This massive "evidence" stated to be more consistent with a theory of intruder than Ramsey guilt is hot air, nothing more than a string of unknowns verbally laced together on "could be", simultaneously divorced from the known, and declared to be much evidence of an intruder. Ridiculous to the max. No wonder no one will step forward and answer questions about alleged evidence of an alleged intruder. Its indefensible.
when we look at other crime scenes involving an intruder, such as the Joseph James DeAngelo / East area rapist or BTK Dennis Raider
they find ligature, shoe prints, tape, fibers hair and other trace evidence unsourced to the home.
what did they find in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
what delmar england is calling ridiculous to the max is called science, using scientific methodology and scientific reasoning and scientific observation on scientific evidence
so when an RDI like tricia griffith says
pictured below are 2 RDI
David Hughes and Tricia Grifith
these 2 RDI posters have stated variations of
"there is no evidence of an intruder" or "handwriting matches Patsy"
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is what she claims
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?76520-Patsy-Ramsey/page92
tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.
No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.
As owner, I do my best to stay out of actual discussions about a crime.
The JBR case is the one expection.
Websleuths is a leader in true crime information as well as discussion. People come here to get information. It is imperative we deal with the facts. Not fantasy.
All I ask for are facts and a logical connecting of the dots. Logic and facts.
When I get time I will be going through the forum to make sure the JonBenet Ramsey forum is being held up to the high standards just like all our other forums on Websleuths.
The days of allowing anyone to post anything because it's part of their "theory" are gone. Facts and logic. Very simple.
this is Tricia Grifith qualifications
Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.
Tricia Griffith is veteran radio disc jockey
this compared to
since intruders in other cases such as the east area rapist and BTK and Mr Cruel brought certain items with them to crime scene, ligature tape left behind shoe prints and trace evidence
and this same evidence was found in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey
it is by definition evidence of an intruder, certainly more than a "scintilla" of evidence.
RDI are complete scientific failures.
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