Eliza Wasni is in the news :-( why intruder leave body and ransom note behind

Chicago teenager Eliza Wasni charged with killing Uber driver

Eliza Wasni: What led to a 16 year old Lincolnwood, Illinois teen stabbing Uber driver, Grant Nelson to death in the early morning hours after Memorial Day?

Eliza Wasni a 16 year old Lincolnwood, Illinois teen was on Wednesday charged as an adult with first degree murder after allegedly stabbing to death an Uber driver just after Memorial Day.

A report via AP, cited Lincolnwood police saying they responded to a report of a man screaming for help at about 3:20 a.m early Tuesday morning in the suburban Chicago area. It was there that they found Grant Nelson, 34, of Wilmette with multiple stab wounds.

The still conscious Uber driver told responding police he was a driver for the ride-sharing service and that his passenger had stabbed him. He was dropping off the girl when the attack occurred, police said in a statement.

Officers located the girl, who prosecutors identified as Eliza Wasni, behind a building near the crime scene in possession of two weapons they believe she used in the stabbing. It wasn’t until officers used a taser gun on the 5ft tall girl that they were able to subdue the teen who had refused to let go of her weapons.

A police report described Wasni slashing her victim within minutes of entering his vehicle, a 2015 Hyundai Sonata sedan, striking him repeatedly on the right side of his arm, torso, head and chest as she sat behind the unsuspecting man.

After having struck Nelson, the driver ran to a nearby building banging for help with the teen driving off with the man’s car before soon crashing into a median strip. From there the the girl fled before she was eventually discovered by police hiding near a building. At the time the teen was wearing just a bra and leggings.

A bloodstained Chicago Cubs shirt was found on the ground and a trail of blood led police to a unit block and to the seriously injured Uber driver.

Police were able to use the Uber app on Grant’s phone to see that “Eliza” was the name of his most recent customer.

Upon her arrest, the teen declined to make a statement.

A report via chicagosuntimes told of Nelson dying at nearby hospital, St. Francis Hospital in Evanston, Illinois a few hours later. The Uber driver’s blood-splattered silver sedan remained in the intersection as police investigated his killing.

Ironically the man’s death came after having finished a memorial day’s dinner when Nelson decided to make some extra cash.

According to his Facebook page, Nelson lived with his parents. He graduated from New Trier High School in Winnetka and the University of Colorado Boulder.
https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/05/eliza-wasni-lincolnwood-teen-grant-nelson-murder-uber-driver/

In a press release, the Lincolnwood Police Department said that when officers found Nelson, at 3:22 a.m. on May 30, he identified his passenger as his assailant.

Teen accused of killing Uber driver with machete in one hand, knife in the other
By Samantha Schmidt June 1 at 6:45 AM

A 16-year-old girl was carrying a machete in one hand, a knife in the other, as she walked out of a Walmart store in the Chicago suburb of Lincolnwood without paying at about 3 a.m. Tuesday, prosecutors said at a court hearing. The girl, Eliza Wasni, called for an Uber ride — her third that night — and a driver pulled up in a silver Hyundai Sonata.

Wasni climbed into the car. About two minutes later, as the car reached an intersection a few blocks away, she began stabbing and hacking at the driver from the back seat, prosecutors said at a news conference.

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.

ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!

nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?