Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser Slenderman and Jonbenet RDI body and ransom note

the slenderman story involving May 31, 2014, in Waukesha, Wisconsin, 12-year-olds Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser lured their friend Payton Leutner into the woods and stabbed her 19 times in an attempt to impress the fictional character Slender Man


these 2



lured  Payton Leutner 12 into woods to kill her, amazingly after 19 stab wounds she survived,
they believed it was to please slenderman

Payton wins redpill coveted Wolverine award

kinda reminds me of these 2



rachel shoaf and shelia eddy, except those 2 succeeded. their reason is they didn't want to be friends with skylar. oh and they thought it'd be lots of fun to.

so in light of these RDI claims

Tricia Griffith of websmear claims that many posters on her site have "proven" that an intruder did not commit the Jonbenet crime.

over at websleuths posters have claimed

detective pinkie wrote:
Hold yourself to the same standards - explain why an intruder would leave a body and a note, simply and believably

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

If he wanted to ensure it was found, why hide it? If he had to bug out, not taking the kidnapped-turned-murdered with him, why did he leave the note?

Delay discovery to what end? If he were bugging out, why would he care when, where, and how she's found?

It makes zero logical sense.

ukguy wrote:
Mama2JML,
Why does an intruder need to bother with a RN at all, all that sitting around authoring a RN, increases the risk of being caught.

No JonBenet in the house tells its own story, when followed up with a ransom phone call, no RN is required.

There is no IDI explanation forthcoming as to why the said intruder did not remove JonBenet from the house, which is just as inconsistent as any staged kidnapping leaving JonBenet in the house!

Intruder plan of action: Enter Ramsey household remove JonBenet, dead or alive, relocate to the boot of awaiting car, then simply drive away. Next day phone ransom demands. Total time to execute less than fifteen minutes!

nimyat of reddit wrote:
There is absolutely 0 reason to start to write a draft ransom note and then write the real thing and make it that ridiculously long.

If it was a premeditated kidnapping, ('hid in the house' theory) why the fuck wouldn't you bring a ransome note with you and why the hell would you start to draft one and then write one on paper found in the house.

If it was a burglary turned kidnapping, why would you start to draft a ransom note, and then write the real thing 4 pages long? You would scribble something like "I've taken your daughter, dont contact police, deposit money at this location at this time if you want to see her again." A panicked burglar does not sit and start writing about his 'organisation'.

A lot of people get bogged down in the details of the case, because it is a fascinating one and it is very interesting, but the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever and was totally written by one of the family in my opinion. They also completely over thought it - mentioning the fathers business, his bonus, writing 4 pages worth etc.

There's no way the family wasn't involved. As for which one did it, that is what is hard to prove.

docg makes a similar claim

docg wrote:

Questions

An intruder intending to express his anger or disdain for the Ramseys would have had no reason to write a meaningless ransom note. A kidnapper would not have left both the note and the body. If the parents were involved in this together, as so many assume, such a note might serve to throw the police off the track, but only if the body were found, days later, in some remote area. Or never found. With the body hidden in the house, where it is sure to be discovered, the note only creates problems for the Ramseys, the only ones who could "logically" have written it. If they were not planning on getting the body out of the house before the police came, then why would they write an obviously phony note?

Also, why was the note hand printed? Why not print it via computer? Or paste words together from newspapers? If the parents, or anyone at all close to the family, wrote it, they would be risking exposure for sure.

Answers

No intruder would have had anything to gain by writing the ransom note. No intruder would have any reason to write it. A kidnapper would have taken the child (or her body) with him. If something had gone wrong with his plan, he would have had no reason to leave a possibly incriminating note. Someone intending to frame John or Patsy would not have written the note in his own hand, as that would be evidence of an intruder. The conclusion is simple: there was no kidnapper. There was no intruder. The note must have been written by someone on the inside -- and it does indeed read like a staged kidnapping attempt.

tawny wrote:
the fail in logic is astounding.

This is an example of NO IDI explanation. Why would an intruder hide her body? Seriously, please answer that for me. Why would an intruder hide her body rather than take her with them and dump her, or leave her where she was? Did an intruder seriously believe she would NEVER EVER be found inside the house?

Serious question: Why would an intruder hide her body in a dark room in a basement?

in light of RDI claims and testing them against real world crime

 Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser  attempted to kill their friend to summon slenderman




attempted to kill and their reason is to please



Rachel Shoaf and Sheila Eddy are in prison bc they wanted to kill Skylar Nesse cause its their idea of having fun

 Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser are in prison bc they attempted to kill to please slenderman

as for not having a reason, intruder reason for writing a ransom note and leaving the body behind is he wanted to. he felt like it. he thought it would make him happy. he thought it'd be funny. he wanted to mislead investigators as to the true purpose. he wanted to troll the ramseys. he wanted to frame the ramseys. he knew RDI are stupid dumbass and that leaving a ransom note would trick them into believing that an intruder wouldn't do it.

he read Leopold and Loeb crime, read how Leopold and Loeb wanted to commit the perfect crime, and left a bogus ransom note and murdered Bobby frank, and wanted to copycat that crime.

when they say what a killer would or would not do, what is this based on?

RDI = full of made up b.s

forumsforjustice is pure b.s. a scientific approach is to detail the scientific evidence found at the Jonbenet crime scene and ask how did that evidence get there and consider various scientific explanations for it.

of these the best explanation, the one that explains the most facts, is the intruder theory.