JonBenet Ramsey, 6 Lori Farmer, 8. Oklahoma Girl Scout murders, and Oakland County Child Killer

im writing this Fri Feb 02, 2018

i think rootlesswriter is the last J-IDI - the only one who reads my JonBenet Ramsey posts
if you've seen the last Jedi you'll know what i'm alluding to. I've come to this blog to die. It is time, for the J-IDI to end.

rootlesswriter, when gone i am, the last J-IDI will you be. to defeat RDI use the power of the daubert side of the forensics

i'm probably the first person to notice this,

in the news People Magazine is discussing Oklahoma Girl Scout murders

The Oklahoma Girl Scout murders is an unsolved murder case that occurred on the morning of June 13, 1977, at Camp Scott in Mayes County, Oklahoma. The victims were three girl scouts, between the ages of 8 and 10, who were raped and murdered. Their bodies had been left on a trail leading to the showers, about 150 yards from their tent at summer camp.

Monday, June 13, 1977, was the first day of camp. At around 7 p.m. the night before, a thunderstorm hit the area, and the girls huddled in their tents. Among them were Lori Lee Farmer, 8, Doris Denise Milner, 10, and Michelle Heather Guse, 9.[2] The girls were residents of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, a suburb of Tulsa. They were sharing tent #8 in the camp's "Kiowa" unit which was located furthest from the Camp Counselor's tent,[3] and partially obscured by the showers for the camp.

I wonder if I am the first person to notice this or not, but the actual dates of the Oklahoma Girl Scout murders Monday, June 13, 1977,

overlaps with the Oakland County Child Killer



Mark Stebbins, 12, of Ferndale, was last seen leaving an American Legion Hall on Sunday afternoon, February 15, 1976.
Jill Robinson, 12, of Royal Oak, packed a backpack and ran away from her home on Wednesday, December 22, 1976
Kristine Mihelich, 10, of Berkley, was last seen Sunday, January 2, 1977 at 3:00 pm
Timothy King, 11, borrowed 30 cents from his older sister and left his home in Birmingham, skateboard in hand, to buy candy at a drugstore on nearby Maple Road on Wednesday, March 16, 1977

The last date for  Oakland County Child Killer was  Wednesday, March 16, 1977
Date for Oklahoma Girl Scout murders, Monday, June 13, 1977




the ages are also similar. So I propose Oakland County Child Killer after killing Timothy King, 11, March 16, 1977 left Oakland County and was present in Oklahoma  Monday, June 13, 1977 for Oklahoma Girl Scout murders, Monday, June 13, 1977


when i first heard of the Oklahoma Girl Scout murders i saw this picture



and this picture of  Lori Farmer, 8



just in the news they revisit this case and i'm looking at

Lori Lee Farmer, 8

People magazine and her mother chose to share this newer photo of Lori Farmer, 8



i'm looking at this photo and just right now i realize

Lori Farmer, 8 kinda looks likes  JonBenet Ramsey 6







i then read how  Oklahoma Girl Scout murders were murdered

In 1977 three young Girl Scouts, aged between eight and ten years of age, were bludgeoned, strangled, molested and murdered on their first night of summer camp.

JonBenet Ramsey were bludgeoned, strangled, molested and murdered

In Oklahoma Girl Scout murders

less than two months before the murders, during an on-site training session, a camp counselor discovered that her belongings had been ransacked and her doughnuts had been stolen. Inside the empty doughnut box was a disturbing hand-written note. The writer of the note vowed to murder three campers. The director of that camp session treated the note as a prank, and it was discarded.[1]

Monday, June 13, 1977, was the first day of camp. At around 7 p.m. the night before, a thunderstorm hit the area, and the girls huddled in their tents. Among them were Lori Lee Farmer, 8, Doris Denise Milner, 10, and Michelle Heather Guse, 9.[2] The girls were residents of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, a suburb of Tulsa. They were sharing tent #8 in the camp's "Kiowa" unit which was located furthest from the Camp Counselor's tent,[3] and partially obscured by the showers for the camp.

Early the next morning, at around 6 a.m., a camp counselor on her way to the shower found a girl's body in her sleeping bag in the forest. It was soon discovered that all three girls in tent #8 had been killed. Their bodies had been left on a trail leading to the showers, about 150 yards from their tent at summer camp.[4] Subsequent testing showed that they had been raped, bludgeoned, and strangled.

there was a handwritten note saying 3 girls will be murdered in a tent

in JonBenet Ramsey she was murdered with a handwritten note.

similar methods of death, similar in having a handwritten note.

sadly the handwritten note was tossed out, but they did find this message, possibly from the killer



in the ransom note SBTC is in all caps, just like the above message

so I theorize that the  Oklahoma Girl Scout murders killer went on to kill JonBenet Ramsey, and could very well be  Oakland County Child Killer

key psychological evidence is how Oklahoma Girl Scout  girls were murdered - they were bludgeon, ligature strangulation, molested
and how  JonBenet Ramsey was murdered bludgeon, ligature strangulation, molested

and how  Oklahoma Girl Scout left a handwritten note threatening to kill, and how  JonBenet Ramsey was found with a handwritten note threatening to kill,

both were killed but partially hidden but quickly found, abducted from their original sleeping location

the ages of victims match up with JonBenet Ramsey, 6 Lori Farmer, 8


and one victim Lori Farmer, 8 resembles Jonbenet Ramsey.

I theorize that after killing Lori Farmer, 8, the killer dreamed of killing another girl that reminds him of Lori Farmer, 8, and when Jonbenet Ramsey 6 came along, he realized he wants to re-experience the killing of Lori Farmer by targeting Jonbenet Ramsey

Jonbenet Ramsey was targeted and murdered solely because the killer also killed Oklahoma Girl Scouts, and Jonbenet reminded him of Lori Farmer 8

the ransom note, like his previous hand written note, was some b.s he came up with as a warning. he didn't pre-write the ransom note in either crime scene.

So my theory is there is a link between the Oklahoma Girl Scouts murders and Jonbenet Ramsey.

I Only thought of it right now and only when i saw the newer photo of Lori Farmer 8 and said to myself, wow, she looks just like Jonbenet!


that's my theory and you read it here first.  

They're not linked IMO. Other than the fact children were murdered, the cases are nothing alike. In one case the children are taken care of, in the other treated like pure garbage.

The Girl Scout Murders should've been solved.

The biggest clue in the case was virtually ignored...

While the counselors were doing a training course, someone left a note in their box of donuts saying three campers would be murdered.

As we all know....the campers were murdered.

I understand why they'd consider it a prank but when a prank becomes real, it's not a prank.

I think it was a counselor but unfortunately we'll never know or someone closely associated with the camp.  As you know, I don't believe in coincidences in crime and the murdered girls were staying in the most distant bunk. I'd like to know who decided which bunk this particular group of girls would sleep in. I'd also like to know why the killer would choose the most distant tent from the camp counselors yet actually go into the counselors tent to steal a purse. That's an incredibly bold move to make for someone attempting to avoid detection. Its also interesting that the crime happened the first night of camp.

I mean no offense to any of the girls but Lori is beautiful and among this group of victims, sticks out the most. I'd like to know if any boys there paid closer attention to Lori. She was also the youngest girl at the camp. In a strange twist, no semen was found on Lori even though they were all three assaulted.

The DNA was of little use in this case. In another strange twist, they found female DNA but it could've just as likely(more likely) to be from one of the victims. IF the female DNA isn't from the victims, the chances of the crime being committed by counselors goes up dramatically.



I wish the feds could intervene in cases of this magnitude. Every single counselor deserved to be grilled by the feds. If nothing pans out, grill em again down the road.

who does that - leave a note that not only announces his intentions but that 3 specifically will be murdered, before it happens.

its my understanding the counselor threw away the note.

i can understand why she thought it was a prank.

it's 2018 for a murder that happen more than 40 years ago in 1977. i think DNA is the only thing they can work on. using the latest DNA technology, retest everything.

if my theory is correct, if they can find the killer's DNA, it should match DNA found either on the OCCK victims or Jonbenet or both.

They're not linked IMO. Other than the fact children were murdered, the cases are nothing alike. In one case the children are taken care of, in the other treated like pure garbage.

the difference you identify is that the OCCK killer was camping out in Oklahoma, on a vacation road trip. didn't have a place to care for the 3 girls.
he was hiking camping when he noticed the 3 girls. he wasn't going to care for them in a tent.

and my theory is he targeted Lori for her looks and then decades later in 1996, Jonbenet Ramsey, for having similar looks.