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DNA scientists RDI vs IDI and The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 am
here are some recent RDI claims on reddit
r/UnresolvedMysteries
•Posted byu/Glittering_Cat3639
14 hours ago
Which one mystery would you choose?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/lenfn1/which_one_mystery_would_you_choose/
this is Miranda Cantu, a murder victim in her own home,
this is her own shirt
this is what DNA forensic scientists did,
they tested it using touch DNA
they found a mixed DNA profile, with the DNA profile of the victim Miranda Cantu and an unknown male DNA profile.
they enter unknown male DNA profile into CODIS and found no match.
detectives interviewed suspects, including those with known burglary records, and collected DNA samples and found a match
Miranda Cantu's killer
in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey
this is an example of a DNA expert Lawrence Kobilinsky
these are his qualifications,
this is a scientific expert witness
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
ref http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/boulder/new-details-revealed-about-jonbenet-ramseys-murder-in-ae-documentary
his CV
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky
ref https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2017357/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
to recap this is the daubert standard
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
DNA experts don't simply test for clothing for touch DNA then leave it up to incompetents like tricia griffith and RDI to claim there's no evidence of an intruder.
they test clothing for DNA AND comment as to the significance of that said DNA, and their testimony and only their testimony is accepted as expert witness testimony under Daubert.
which The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey here is evidence of an intruder
There is nothing to suggest an intruder. The DNA is a red herring. Look at the note, the pineapple, all the evidence in the house, the behavior of the three people in the house, look at all these things. Until all of these things can be explained and logical evidence is offered to show an intruder we will not allow innocent people to be discussed as the possible killer. Just like any other forum on Websleuths.
Thank you,
Tricia Griffith
Owner/Websleuths.com
Tricia, Sep 11, 2016
#1
dcountmontecristo, InvSmith, MaryNo and 3 others like this[/quote]
this is
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is her qualifications
vs
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
ref http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/boulder/new-details-revealed-about-jonbenet-ramseys-murder-in-ae-documentary
his CV
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky
ref https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2017357/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
RDI are a cyber lynch mob and a cult
to recap,
DNA scientists
they tested it using touch DNA
both test crime scene evidence for DNA AND write forensic reports as to the significance of that DNA
in the Miranda Cantu murder touch DNA on her orange shirt led to a conviction,
in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey, consistent DNA profile using touch DNA on 2 separate articles of clothing in 3 locations is evaluated by expert witness as coming from an intruder.
RDI is pure ignorance.
here are some recent RDI claims on reddit
r/UnresolvedMysteries
•Posted byu/Glittering_Cat3639
14 hours ago
Which one mystery would you choose?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/lenfn1/which_one_mystery_would_you_choose/
bitchyhouseplant
12 hours ago
I would absolutely pick Jonbenet. That case has been my special interest ever since it happened. I was a year older than her and can recall watching this made for TV movie of some sorts that seemed so realistic, it grabbed me instantly. I did a report on her in high school (which upset my teacher for choosing a dark subject), and I desperately want to know exactly what went down that night.
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cornfed74
11 hours ago
I think the brother did it. One documentary played out the evidence very well. No way it was an intruder!
twelvedayslate
10 hours ago
It was absolutely not an intruder. It still amazes me that people think it was.
I find the owl theory just as ridiculous.
ElectricGypsy
5 hours ago
I know. I am astonished that people could actually believe that it was an intruder.
There are people who would still think it was an intruder even if they saw video of one of the Ramseys murdering her.
this is Miranda Cantu, a murder victim in her own home,
this is her own shirt
this is what DNA forensic scientists did,
they tested it using touch DNA
they found a mixed DNA profile, with the DNA profile of the victim Miranda Cantu and an unknown male DNA profile.
they enter unknown male DNA profile into CODIS and found no match.
detectives interviewed suspects, including those with known burglary records, and collected DNA samples and found a match
Miranda Cantu's killer
in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey
this is an example of a DNA expert Lawrence Kobilinsky
these are his qualifications,
this is a scientific expert witness
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
concluded that an unidentified male was responsible for JonBenét's death, based on forensic DNA analysis of evidence. Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky commented that the documentary showed that an intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet"
ref http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/boulder/new-details-revealed-about-jonbenet-ramseys-murder-in-ae-documentary
his CV
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
Professor & Chairperson
Education
Post-Doc - Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
(Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD - The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
(Biology)
1971 MA - City College of New York (Biology)
1969 BS - City College of New York (Biology)
Bio
My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology. My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of Short Tandam Repeats (STRs). We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence. Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway. We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky
https://www.duq.edu/about/centers-and-institutes/cyril-h-wecht-institute-of-forensic-science-and-law/fixing-forensics-seminar/kobilinsky
Lawrence Kobilinsky, Ph.D.
Lawrence Kobilinsky, Ph.D., an internationally renowned forensic scientist and expert in DNA analysis, is the Chairman of the Science Department at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. At John Jay, where he is a full time professor, Dr. Kobilinsky has served as Acting Dean of Graduate Studies, Associate Provost, and Science Advisor to the College President. He is also a member of the doctoral faculties in biochemistry and criminal justice at the Graduate Center of The City University of New York. A Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, Dr. Kobilinsky is a Diplomate of the American College of Forensic Examiners and a Board Certified Forensic Examiner. His case experience is extensive and engages a number of issues of applied forensic science. He has served as advisor to criminal laboratories in Mexico, China, Brazil and the Dominican Republic. In the U.S., Dr. Kobilinsky is an advisor to the State Department regarding forensic science laboratories in the Ukraine. Dr. Kobilinsky is the recipient of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers’ "Civilian Award” and the New York Microscopical Society’s Ashby Award. Brazil awarded Dr. Kobilinsky the Medal of the City of Mogi das Cruzes for his efforts in establishing a forensic science laboratory as part of the city’s rape crisis center.
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. He has been working on a high sensitivity methods to study low copy DNA extracted from biological samples.
Dr. Kobilinsky received his BS in Biology from City College in New York in 1969. He received his Masters in Bioilogy in 1971 and his PhD in 1977 from The Graduate Center of the City University of New York.
Dr Kobilinsky has consulted on high profile cases such as the Casey Anthony murder trial, Michael Brown and JonBenet Ramsey.
ref https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2017357/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
to recap this is the daubert standard
In Daubert, seven members of the Court agreed on the following guidelines for admitting scientific expert testimony:
Judge is gatekeeper: Under Rule 702 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, the task of "gatekeeping", or assuring that scientific expert testimony truly proceeds from "scientific knowledge", rests on the trial judge.
Relevance and reliability: This requires the trial judge to ensure that the expert's testimony is "relevant to the task at hand" and that it rests "on a reliable foundation". Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharms., Inc., 509 U.S. 579, 584-587. Concerns about expert testimony cannot be simply referred to the jury as a question of weight. Furthermore, the admissibility of expert testimony is governed by Rule 104(a), not Rule 104(b); thus, the Judge must find it more likely than not that the expert's methods are reliable and reliably applied to the facts at hand.
Scientific knowledge = scientific method/methodology: A conclusion will qualify as scientific knowledge if the proponent can demonstrate that it is the product of sound "scientific methodology" derived from the scientific method.[3]
Illustrative Factors: The Court defined "scientific methodology" as the process of formulating hypotheses and then conducting experiments to prove or falsify the hypothesis, and provided a set of illustrative factors (i.e., not a "test") in determining whether these criteria are met:
Whether the theory or technique employed by the expert is generally accepted in the scientific community;
Whether it has been subjected to peer review and publication;
Whether it can be and has been tested;
Whether the known or potential rate of error is acceptable; and
Whether the research was conducted independent of the particular litigation or dependent on an intention to provide the proposed testimony.[4]
In 2000, Rule 702 was amended in an attempt to codify and structure elements embodied in the "Daubert trilogy." The amended rule then read as follows:
Rule 702. Testimony by Experts
If scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will assist the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue, a witness qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education, may testify thereto in the form of an opinion or otherwise, if (1) the testimony is based upon sufficient facts or data, (2) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods, and (3) the witness has applied the principles and methods reliably to the facts of the case.
(As amended Apr. 17, 2000, eff. Dec. 1, 2000.)
In 2011, Rule 702 was again amended to make the language more clear. The rule now reads:
RULE 702. TESTIMONY BY EXPERT WITNESSES
A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:
(a) The expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;
(b) The testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
(c) The testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
(d) The expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.
(As amended Apr. 17, 2000, eff. Dec. 1, 2000; Apr. 26, 2011, eff. Dec. 1, 2011)
While some federal courts still rely on pre-2000 opinions in determining the scope of Daubert, as a technical legal matter, any earlier judicial rulings that conflict with the language of amended Rule 702 are no longer good precedent.
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
concluded that an unidentified male was responsible for JonBenét's death, based on forensic DNA analysis of evidence. Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky commented that the documentary showed that an intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet"
DNA experts don't simply test for clothing for touch DNA then leave it up to incompetents like tricia griffith and RDI to claim there's no evidence of an intruder.
they test clothing for DNA AND comment as to the significance of that said DNA, and their testimony and only their testimony is accepted as expert witness testimony under Daubert.
which The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey here is evidence of an intruder
There is nothing to suggest an intruder. The DNA is a red herring. Look at the note, the pineapple, all the evidence in the house, the behavior of the three people in the house, look at all these things. Until all of these things can be explained and logical evidence is offered to show an intruder we will not allow innocent people to be discussed as the possible killer. Just like any other forum on Websleuths.
Thank you,
Tricia Griffith
Owner/Websleuths.com
Tricia, Sep 11, 2016
#1
dcountmontecristo, InvSmith, MaryNo and 3 others like this[/quote]
this is
trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist
this is her qualifications
Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.
vs
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
concluded that an unidentified male was responsible for JonBenét's death, based on forensic DNA analysis of evidence. Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky commented that the documentary showed that an intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet"
ref http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/boulder/new-details-revealed-about-jonbenet-ramseys-murder-in-ae-documentary
his CV
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky
Professor & Chairperson
Education
Post-Doc - Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
(Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD - The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
(Biology)
1971 MA - City College of New York (Biology)
1969 BS - City College of New York (Biology)
Bio
My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology. My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of Short Tandam Repeats (STRs). We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence. Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway. We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky
https://www.duq.edu/about/centers-and-institutes/cyril-h-wecht-institute-of-forensic-science-and-law/fixing-forensics-seminar/kobilinsky
Lawrence Kobilinsky, Ph.D.
Lawrence Kobilinsky, Ph.D., an internationally renowned forensic scientist and expert in DNA analysis, is the Chairman of the Science Department at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. At John Jay, where he is a full time professor, Dr. Kobilinsky has served as Acting Dean of Graduate Studies, Associate Provost, and Science Advisor to the College President. He is also a member of the doctoral faculties in biochemistry and criminal justice at the Graduate Center of The City University of New York. A Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, Dr. Kobilinsky is a Diplomate of the American College of Forensic Examiners and a Board Certified Forensic Examiner. His case experience is extensive and engages a number of issues of applied forensic science. He has served as advisor to criminal laboratories in Mexico, China, Brazil and the Dominican Republic. In the U.S., Dr. Kobilinsky is an advisor to the State Department regarding forensic science laboratories in the Ukraine. Dr. Kobilinsky is the recipient of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers’ "Civilian Award” and the New York Microscopical Society’s Ashby Award. Brazil awarded Dr. Kobilinsky the Medal of the City of Mogi das Cruzes for his efforts in establishing a forensic science laboratory as part of the city’s rape crisis center.
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. He has been working on a high sensitivity methods to study low copy DNA extracted from biological samples.
Dr. Kobilinsky received his BS in Biology from City College in New York in 1969. He received his Masters in Bioilogy in 1971 and his PhD in 1977 from The Graduate Center of the City University of New York.
Dr Kobilinsky has consulted on high profile cases such as the Casey Anthony murder trial, Michael Brown and JonBenet Ramsey.
ref https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2017357/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
RDI are a cyber lynch mob and a cult
to recap,
DNA scientists
they tested it using touch DNA
both test crime scene evidence for DNA AND write forensic reports as to the significance of that DNA
in the Miranda Cantu murder touch DNA on her orange shirt led to a conviction,
in The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet Ramsey, consistent DNA profile using touch DNA on 2 separate articles of clothing in 3 locations is evaluated by expert witness as coming from an intruder.
RDI is pure ignorance.
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