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Post by redpill Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:08 pm

this is the JonBenét Ramsey ransom note

Mr. Ramsey,

Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. We do respect your bussiness [sic] but not the country that it serves. At this time we have your daughter in our posession [sic]. She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter.

You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a [sic] earlier delivery pick-up of your daughter.

Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter. You will also be denied her remains for proper burial. The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them. Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as Police, F.B.I., etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. You will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found, she dies. You can try to deceive us but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to out smart [sic] us. Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back.

You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities. Don't try to grow a brain John. You are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us John. Use that good southern common sense of yours. It is up to you now John!

Victory!

S.B.T.C

MS Word says that's 377 words long. Contrary to what FBI profilers may have told you, it is not the longest ransom note on record.

What follows now is another RN, Barabara Mackle's ransom note, BRN which has 970 words. 970/377 = 2.6 times as long.

this BRN is more than twice the length of the RN. Written
This case is December 17, 1968 Barbara Jane Mackle (born 1948)

The 970 words begins here:


Sir, your daughter has been kidnapped by us and we now
hold her for ransom. She is quite safe, if somewhat
uncomfortable. We offer no proof of our possession of her
at this time. It will arrive by mail in a few days. Barbara is
presently alive inside a small capsule buried in a remote
piece of soil. She has enough food and water and air to
last seven days. At the end of the seven days the life supporting
batteries will be discharged and her air supply will be cut off.

The box is waterproof and very strong-fiberglass reinforced
plywood-she has little chance of escaping. The box is in an unusual and lonely place. She has no chance of being accidently stumbled upon.

Contemplate, if you will, the position into which this puts
you. If you pay the ransom prior to seven days,
we will tell you of her whereabouts. Should you catch the
messenger we send to pick up the ransom, we will simply
not say anything to anyone and ergo Barbara will
suffocate. The messenger knows only one of us and he will report to us via radio from the pickup site. We will
immediately know his fate.

Should you catch all, of us we will never admit anything as to do
so would be suicide and again-she will die. As you can see, you don't want to catch us for to do so would be condemning your lovely and intelligent daughter to death. The police may allow you to have a free hand prior to the return of your daughter
should you be so callous as to contact them. If you ask the police to advise you in this matter please be aware that
their very presence will scare us off. We can see no way for you to secure the safe return of your daughter other than to obey instructions explicitly.

1) Although we will always anticipate the involvement of the police in this situation, be assured that if your communication with them or their actual presence is detected, we will break off negotiations with you immediately. We have tied into several
of the possible means of communications that you have with the police and feel that you will be unable to contact them without our
knowledge.

2) The ransom will be $500,000 in recently issued $20 bills. Here are the requirements you must meet in this matter:
The notes must not be older than 1950 issue.
No more than ten notes must have consecutive serial numbers; ie., the notes must have a great variety of serial-numbers and not be merely shuffled.
The notes must be Federal Reserve notes of standard configuration.

No more than one-half of the notes may be uncirculated.

No form of marking on the bills is acceptable. Please note that the bills will undergo a minimum of eight hours of intense examination before we allow you to have knowledge of the subject's whereabouts. We have planned a series of 44 tests on a large representative of the bills. These tests include every chemical and physical test of any remote applicability.


No omission, shaving, spotting, cutting, counterfeiting, irradiating, ad nos will go undetected.

3) The bills should occupy no more than 400 cubic inches and thusly fit into a standard large suitcase of inside dimensions 31.5" longx18.75" highx6.25" deep. Purchase such a suitcase and lock the bills inside.
When you have the money in readiness, call all the Miami
area major newspapers and place the following ad in the "personal" section of the classified advertisemsnts:

"Loved one-please come home. We will pay all expenses
and meet you anywhere at anytime. Your Family."

Prepare your car for a trip and on the night of the ad's first appearance we will call you at home after midnight to advise you of where you must go to deliver the money. You must be the one to deliver the money, Robert. You will dress yourself in an all-white outfit. You must use the Lincoln to deliver the money.

In order to prevent the instructional call being traced it will be very brief and no portion of it will be repeated. If the phone rings more than three times or the connection takes longer than 15 seconds we will not contact you. You will have a limited period of time to make the rendezvous so you should be ready to leave your house within one minute of receiving the phone call in order to be within the time limit. You will proceed to the area of the meeting within the legal speed limit as if you were in no hurry. We will not meet you if you fail to show within the time limit which is only a short time longer than you will require to drive to the pickup site. Any unusual police activity or other activity in the area of the pick up will cancel the appointment.

When you arrive at the pick up site you will know it by a signal of three short flashes repeated continuously from a flashlight directed at the windshield of your car. When you see the signal you will stop the car and immediately take the suitcase toward the light. The light will be mounted on the top of a box. The suitcase should be placed within the box. You will then return to your car and proceed back up the street, in the direction from which you came and go home.

Any deviation from this outline will result in your death.
Our messenger will have you in his sights from the time you leave your car. Within twelve hours after you deliver the money you will receive another call advising you of your daughter's whereabouts. A letter will be sent also to insure the findings of your daughter.

the Babara Mackle ransom note, which is more than two and a half times longer than the Jonbenet Ramsey note, is an actual ransom note with ransom demands. The kidnapper who wrote it,  Gary Stephen Krist, is a man, and intended to receive actual ransom money.

This crime happened in 1968, and the kidnappers  Gary Stephen Krist and Ruth Eisemann-Schier went to prison, so they did not also author the Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note. However, Jonbenet's killer most likely was intimately familiar with the earlier Babara Mackle ransom note.

I'm writing and typing this on a Sunday afternoon, October 2, 2016 and of the tens of millions of people who have an opinion on Jonbenet Ramsey, and of the tens of thousands of posters on Jonbenet on forums like websleuth, forumsforjustice, topix, reddit, justicequest, crimeshots, and of the hundreds of blogs on Jonbenet, no one, not a single person or poster anywhere or at any time, no FBI profiler, no detective, no investigator, no crime documentary, except me in my earlier life as Voynich on websleuth, has ever commented on this.

the Jonbenet ransom note says


Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Any deviation from this outline will result in your death.

the two ransom notes share these forensic texts in common

Any deviation will result in your [death/execution]

keep in mind it is Barbara Mackle's parents that are reading this, and Barbara Mackle is their daughter

Barbara Mackle
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Barbara Mackle's parents
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the wording is almost identical, addressed to the parents about their daughter. it seems highly likely Jonbenet's killer plagiarized that sentence changed a couple of words from the earlier Barbara Mackle ransom note. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note

there is no credible evidence the Ramseys were familiar with the Barbara Mackle ransom note, and the odds of them coming up with words similar to the earlier obscure ransom note by chance is nearly nil. This is evidence the ransom note was not written by any Ramsey but by an intruder familiar with a very obscure and now long forgotten crime from the 1968.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

Mr. Ramsey,

addressing to Jonbenet's father only John, even though she also has a mother Patsy

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Sir,

addressing to Barbara Mackle's father only, even though she also has a mother


the Jonbenet ransom note says

At this time we have your daughter in our posession [sic]. She is safe and unharmed

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

your daughter has been kidnapped by us and we now hold her for ransom. . She is quite safe, if somewhat uncomfortable.

both ransom notes say "we have/kidnapped" and "your daughter" both state she is "safe" and use 2 words "unharmed" and "uncomfortable". This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note

the Jonbenet ransom note says

She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

We can see no way for you to secure the safe return of your daughter other than to obey instructions explicitly.

both ransom notes say in so many words about how to obey instructions, one saying to the letter the other explicitly

the Jonbenet ransom note says

and if you want her to see 1997,

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Barbara is presently alive inside a small capsule buried in a remote piece of soil. She has enough food and water and air to last seven days. At the end of the seven days the life supporting
batteries will be discharged and her air supply will be cut off.

The Jonbenet ransom note was most likely written December 26, 1996 and in 7 days it would be 1997. Both statements imply Jonbenet and Barbara were alive, but will die after 7 days so there is the urgency of time. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note


the Jonbenet ransom note says

you must follow our instructions to the letter.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

The box is waterproof and very strong-fiberglass reinforced plywood-she has little chance of escaping. The box is in an unusual and lonely place. She has no chance of being accidently stumbled upon.

Contemplate, if you will, the position into which this puts you. If you pay the ransom prior to seven days, we will tell you of her whereabouts.

both ransom notes state that the father most follow the instructions to ensure her safety. If they want to see their daughter alive, they must comply with what is being stated. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note


the Jonbenet ransom note says

You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

2) The ransom will be $500,000 in recently issued $20 bills. Here are the requirements you must meet in this matter:
The notes must not be older than 1950 issue.
No more than ten notes must have consecutive serial numbers; ie., the notes must have a great variety of serial-numbers and not be merely shuffled.
The notes must be Federal Reserve notes of standard configuration.

both ransom notes go into considerable detail as to the specifics of denomination of the payment of the ransom. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note


the Jonbenet ransom note says

Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

3) The bills should occupy no more than 400 cubic inches and thusly fit into a standard large suitcase of inside dimensions 31.5" longx18.75" highx6.25" deep. Purchase such a suitcase and lock the bills inside.

both ransom notes use the word suitcase - attache is another synonym for suitcase. both comment on making sure the suitcase is the right size to accommodate the size and volume of the ransom cash payment. Both comment that the money is to be placed into a suitcase. Both give great details on how this is to be done. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note

the Jonbenet ransom note says

I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

In order to prevent the instructional call being traced it will be very brief and no portion of it will be repeated. If the phone rings more than three times or the connection takes longer than 15 seconds we will not contact you.

both ransom notes state a call will be made to you, the parent. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note

the Jonbenet ransom note says

We your You

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

we you your

they both use the same pronouns and both use first person plural we. This is forensic text evidence Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note's author was influenced in this detail by the earlier Barbara ransom note

the Jonbenet ransom note says

Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Any deviation from this outline will result in your death.

the clearest example that the Jonbenet ramsey ransom note author directly plagiarized the earlier Barbara Mackle ransom note.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

You will also be denied her remains for proper burial.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads


The box is waterproof and very strong-fiberglass reinforced plywood-she has little chance of escaping. The box is in an unusual and lonely place. She has no chance of being accidently stumbled upon.

and

Within twelve hours after you deliver the money you will receive another call advising you of your daughter's whereabouts. A letter will be sent also to insure the findings of your daughter.

both Jonbenet and Barbara ransom note authors say that the kidnapped victim is hidden away at another location, and any failure to comply with instructions results in her never being found, even her lifeless body will never be recovered.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads


You will have a limited period of time to make the rendezvous so you should be ready to leave your house within one minute of receiving the phone call in order to be within the time limit. You will proceed to the area of the meeting within the legal speed limit as if you were in no hurry.

they both comment on the details of delivery, which is a lot of work, one says to be rested the other say no hurry.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Prepare your car for a trip and on the night of the ad's first appearance we will call you at home after midnight to advise you of where you must go to deliver the money.

and

You will dress yourself in an all-white outfit. You must use the Lincoln to deliver the money.

The jonbenet author says the phone call would be at their home in the 8-10 am morning and the babara mackle author says the call would be after midnight, but both calls purpose is to instruct on delivery of the money. The Jonbenet author says he will instruct on the delivery, the Barbara author actually provides instructions such as all white clothing and driving a Lincoln car.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Our messenger will have you in his sights from the time you leave your car.

in both the idea that the kidnapper is watching them closely is stated here.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

and hence a [sic] earlier delivery pick-up of your daughter.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Within twelve hours after you deliver the money you will receive another call advising you of your daughter's whereabouts.


When you arrive at the pick up site you will know it by a signal of three short flashes repeated continuously from a flashlight directed at the windshield of your car.

and

The messenger knows only one of us and he will report to us via radio from the pickup site.

the author of the Jonbenet ransom note originally wrote down the word delivery but then crossed it out and wrote in pickup. my thesis is that the author of the Jonbenet ransom note was familiar with the Barbara Mackle ransom note, which uses both words delivery and pickup.

the Jonbenet ransom note says

The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them.

why would the author of the Jonbenet ransom note even say that? why bother to mention it? my thesis is that the author of the Jonbenet ransom note was familiar with the Barbara Mackle ransom note

Should you catch the messenger we send to pick up the ransom, we will simply
not say anything to anyone and ergo Barbara will suffocate. The messenger knows only one of us and he will report to us via radio from the pickup site. We will immediately know his fate.

The Barbara Mackle ransom note uses the word "messenger" and "he" implying a male, and "one of us" implying more than 1, and the Jobnenet uses gentlemen. In the Barbara Mackle ransom note interfering with the messenger, a man, in any way, will provoke the kidnappers, the authors of the ransom note, into allowing Barbara to suffocate. So don't provoke them.


the Jonbenet ransom note says

Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as Police, F.B.I., etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

1) Although we will always anticipate the involvement of the police in this situation, be assured that if your communication with them or their actual presence is detected, we will break off negotiations with you immediately.

and


Should you catch the messenger we send to pick up the ransom, we will simply not say anything to anyone and ergo Barbara will suffocate.

The author of the Jonbenet ransom note mentions Police and threat of beheading, the Barbara Mackle ransom note says they anticipate a communication with police with threat of suffocation of their daughter.


the Jonbenet ransom note says

. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

. Purchase such a suitcase and lock the bills inside.

and

The light will be mounted on the top of a box. The suitcase should be placed within the box.

in both ransom notes, specific directions on the transfer of money into a suitcase and then into another container. evidence Jonbenet's ransom note author knew of the Barbara Mackle ransom note.

the Jonbenet ransom note says


. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads

Should you catch all, of us we will never admit anything as to do so would be suicide and again-she will die.

both makes threats and use the word "die".

the Jonbenet ransom note says

If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies.

Barbara Mackle ransom note reads


2) The ransom will be $500,000 in recently issued $20 bills. Here are the requirements you must meet in this matter:
The notes must not be older than 1950 issue.
No more than ten notes must have consecutive serial numbers; ie., the notes must have a great variety of serial-numbers and not be merely shuffled.
The notes must be Federal Reserve notes of standard configuration.

No more than one-half of the notes may be uncirculated.

No form of marking on the bills is acceptable.

The Jonbenet ransom note
If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies.

Barbara Mackle ransom note

No form of marking on the bills is acceptable

No omission, shaving, spotting, cutting, counterfeiting, irradiating, ad nos will go undetected.


both make it a point to say if the ransom money is in any way marked or tampered with it is not acceptable and she dies.

The Jonbenet ransom note

You will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found, she dies.

Barbara Mackle ransom note

In order to prevent the instructional call being traced it will be very brief and no portion of it will be repeated. If the phone rings more than three times or the connection takes longer than 15 seconds we will not contact you.

the barbara mackle ransom note makes it a point that the electronic device, a phone, can be traced or scanned, which is the same theme and topic as Jonbenet.

The Jonbenet ransom note


You can try to deceive us but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics.

Barbara Mackle ransom note

Please note that the bills will undergo a minimum of eight hours of intense examination before we allow you to have knowledge of the subject's whereabouts. We have planned a series of 44 tests on a large representative of the bills. These tests include every chemical and physical test of any remote applicability.


Here are the requirements you must meet in this matter:
The notes must not be older than 1950 issue.
No more than ten notes must have consecutive serial numbers; ie., the notes must have a great variety of serial-numbers and not be merely shuffled.
The notes must be Federal Reserve notes of standard configuration.

No more than one-half of the notes may be uncirculated.

and

We have tied into several of the possible means of communications that you have with the police and feel that you will be unable to contact them without our knowledge.

and

In order to prevent the instructional call being traced it will be very brief and no portion of it will be repeated. If the phone rings more than three times or the connection takes longer than 15 seconds we will not contact you.

the Barbara Mackle ransom note author is stating police tactics and countermeasures to ransom money delivery, such as marking the money, tracing calls etc.


The Jonbenet ransom note

You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to out smart [sic] us.

Barbara Mackle ransom note

Contemplate, if you will, the position into which this puts you. If you pay the ransom prior to seven days, we will tell you of her whereabouts. Should you catch the messenger we send to pick up the ransom, we will simply not say anything to anyone and ergo Barbara will suffocate.

and

Any unusual police activity or other activity in the area of the pick up will cancel the appointment

both these passages are threatening consquences if the father attempts to think of a way to outsmart the kidnapper, it would result in killing their daughter.

The Jonbenet ransom note

Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back.

Barbara Mackle ransom note

within twelve hours after you deliver the money you will receive another call advising you of your daughter's whereabouts. A letter will be sent also to insure the findings of your daughter.

both use the word daughter, and both assure if money is paid they would get her back.

The Jonbenet ransom note
You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities.

Barbara Mackle ransom note
Our messenger will have you in his sights from the time you leave your car.

both threaten they are watching every movement

The Jonbenet ransom note
Don't try to grow a brain John.
Don't underestimate us John.
It is up to you now John!

Barbara Mackle ransom note

You must be the one to deliver the money, Robert.

The police may allow you to have a free hand prior to the return of your daughter
should you be so callous as to contact them

If you ask the police to advise you in this matter please be aware that their very presence will scare us off.

both ransom notes address the father, by name. Both use the word "YOU" in effect only the Father can do this.
both have a series of statements that in effect offer a series of threats directed to the father.

The Jonbenet ransom note
Use that good southern common sense of yours.

Barbara Mackle ransom note


call all the Miami area major newspapers and place the following ad in the "personal" section of the classified advertisemsnts:

"Loved one-please come home. We will pay all expenses
and meet you anywhere at anytime. Your Family."

Conclusion
The author of the Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note was intimately familiar with the earlier Barbara Mackle ransom note, in effect plagiarizing the words and topics and ideas. The intruder, Jonbenet's killer, changed some of the wording, but in effect Jonbenet's killer knew of this kidnapping of a daughter and ransom note. There is no credible reason to suspect that either Patsy or John Ramsey, after killing their daughter by them or by Burke, in a panic proceeded to write a ransom note whose language contains words and statements and ideas and topics that so closely hew to the earlier Barbara Mackle kidnapping way back in 1968, a relatively obscure and unknown crime.

The fact that the author of the Jonbenet Ramsey ransom note was intimately familiar with the earlier Barbara Mackle ransom note rules out the Ramseys as authors, and proves the ransom note was written by an intruder. Jonbenet's killer therefore was familiar with the earlier kidnapping and ransom note of the Barbara Mackle kidnapping. In both crimes, a daughter was abducted, hidden in another location, and the abductor left a ransom note threatening death. Both are long and wordy. The Jonbenet Ransom note author clearly lifted sentences and topics from the earlier one.

The author of the Jonbenet Ransom note was familiar with true crime movies like Dirty Harry, Ransom and Speed, all 3 movies involve abductions and kidnappings of minors. The author also is familiar with the earlier Barbara Mackle kidnapping and ransom note, and proceeded to plagiarize its contents. The author also was familiar with the Leopold and Loeb kidnapping and ransom note.

Jonbenet's killer then is a killer who is familiar with true crime genre such as the kidnapping of Barbara Mackle and the Leopold and Loeb kidnapping, and familiar with movies based on true crime and kidnapping, Dirty Harry Ransom and Speed.

The Barbara Mackle kidnapping occurred in 1968 and faded into obscurity and mostly forgotten. Dirty Harry aired in 1971 Leopold and Loeb 1924. It may be the author and Jonbenet's killer is older male with memory of these crimes when they were front page news and saw Dirty Harry in the theater in 1971.

In conclusion, the agreement between the Jonbenet ransom note and the Barbara Mackle ransom note
is so extensive, that were this a college paper, a college could call this plagiarism. It rules out the Ramseys's as authors and suspects and proves an intruder was present and wrote the ransom note. It also says the offender, someone familiar with this obscure and long forgotten crime, as well as the Leopold and Loeb crime, and movies like Dirty Harry, Ransom and Speed, is an offender that is knowledge about kidnapping crimes and movies. Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven

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Post by MurderMysteryReader Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:45 pm

I didn't know much about the Barbara Mackle kidnapping and heard about it years years later as an adult. I watched 83 Hours Til Dawn based on it, but haven't recently. It has been awhile since I read the ramson note last and it was probably once. I might have read the book. Your post redpill sparked my memory and I think you are right on with thinking that the Ramsey intruders/killer got ideas and the general theme from it. It makes me wonder if homicide detectives or others in LE find out about past crimes in case a copycat one comes up. It is a big clue that could be followed up and would have helped solve the Ramsey case since the detectives with the case would have known where to start looking for him. Of course, they didn't want to since they thought it had already been solved because it was the Ramsey's and no intruder. Thank You for keeping up with your blog. I read it a lot and find it packed with good information.

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Post by redpill Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:20 pm

well thanks for reading. yes it's a pretty obscure and largely forgotten crime, and the text of the ransom note is not generally available online. on websleuth someone pm'ed me the text they copied from a true crime book on it.

it is my position that the author of the jonbenet ransom note read it and was familiar with it, and that there is no credible reason to believe the Ramseys knew of it. therefore they are eliminated as authors.

this is called source criticism.

i'd forgotten about it until I saw the CBS documentary where the 2 frauds James Fitzgerald and Stan Burke along with the 2 profilers Jim Clemente and Laura Richards all commented on how unnecessarily long the ransom note is. so it reminded me of this.

thanks for reading!

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