i just watched The Last Kingdom for very first time vs bible and sunday school
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i just watched The Last Kingdom for very first time vs bible and sunday school
Sat Dec 08, 2018
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on wed, i saw the latest episode of History channel vikings. lots of sleeping around happened. bishop heamond having sex with lagetha and then killing a bishop who had his job. ragnar's son bjorn having sex with a viking groupie princess who was pledge to marry king aflred and floki losing it, over the gods in iceland.
i then visited the viking reddit and for the first time in my life i saw several posters talking about a show i've never heard of
The Last Kingdom by bbc
its also about vikings vs anglo saxons and set in england, and how the danes want to conquer all of england. it overlaps with vikings as wessex was the last kingdom standing
in vikings the vikings were from norway cattacut is in norway but in the last kingdom the vikings were from denmark. equally viscious.
lots of torture and murder.
i watch this while exercising so i am not paying 100% attention
but while watching it
it struck me how different their worldview was from ours and how it is grounded biblically but totally wrong.
here
the mother was saying the viking is god's punishment for sins. she's the mother of the main character. she said we need to repent our sins. we need to pray. we need the priest to bless the troops.
the christians said that by relying on the only true god and his son jesus christ, they will prevail over the vikings. the first episode had a battle and the christians were annihilated. kinda like the jewish holocaust.
the bible of course makes similar claims
a major topic both in the history channel vikings and bbc vikings
is that the vikings were pagans, they are called heathen and pagans they worship the devil.
here a christian told the vikings they worship a false god, thor is a false god, and they worship the true god
these claims reminds me of david and goliath
this is what the heathen pagan vikings did to the christian
this is david and goliath in reverse, here the goliath, the pagans defeated the christians and decapitated them.
now where i grew up there were a lot of jews who held christians in contempt, held they worship the true god and not some triune false god of the christians and that jesus is not christ is not god
but does anyone seriously believe if you give these jews sling shots
allowed them to pray to yahweh, to perform sacrifices to yahweh and read torah and recite the passage of king david over the philistines,
they would have any chance against the Vikings?
or mongols or shaka zulu and his africans, the jews have any chance of winning? i don't.
the jews did engage war against the babylonians and romans and lost badly, were marginalized by both christians and muslims and got their asses kicked by the germans in ww2. for me the holocaust is a clear demonstration that when you compare what the bible says about god protecting his chosen people the jews, vs the real world, what actual outcome is, jews lose badly just as christians lost badly to the vikings.
the bible claims god is with the jews and gives them military victories, but watching vikings, they routinely kill christians and credit thor and odin as being more powerful than yahweh and jesus christ, and they have plenty of military victories to back it up.
the priest prayed to jesus christ for victory and deliverance against the vikings, before the vikings slaughtered huge numbers of anglo saxon christians.
watching vikings i understand why they needed gods, to believe in an afterlife, both vikings with vahlahala and christians with heaven
and that religion became a rallying cry to give troops courage and morale.
if i existed in that time period i'd believe in my deity and hope to go to heaven in the afterlife.
i was in church and catholic school and sunday school and i listen to how god loves king david and gave him military victories over the pagans. but in the real world, those pagans, the vikings, massacred christians, and the romans and babylonians and germans annihilated the jews.
but now its clear to me military victory has nothing to do with deities. the bible claims are wrong.
both in this show and vikings, the vikings point out that when they defeat the christians in military battle, this proves odin and thor is more powerful than yahweh and jesus.
again the bible wants us to believe in yahweh is more powerful than the gods of Egypt and philistiens and canaanite deities due to military victories, how then do you explain when those armies defeat israel ? or when hitler wiped out 6 million?
personally i don't understand why vikings converted to christianity, though i know that rollo got a good deal from the french, and king alfred offered a deal to accept the vikings should they convert to christianity, which is what happened historically.
*gory photos from tv show viewer discretion advised*
on wed, i saw the latest episode of History channel vikings. lots of sleeping around happened. bishop heamond having sex with lagetha and then killing a bishop who had his job. ragnar's son bjorn having sex with a viking groupie princess who was pledge to marry king aflred and floki losing it, over the gods in iceland.
i then visited the viking reddit and for the first time in my life i saw several posters talking about a show i've never heard of
The Last Kingdom by bbc
its also about vikings vs anglo saxons and set in england, and how the danes want to conquer all of england. it overlaps with vikings as wessex was the last kingdom standing
in vikings the vikings were from norway cattacut is in norway but in the last kingdom the vikings were from denmark. equally viscious.
lots of torture and murder.
i watch this while exercising so i am not paying 100% attention
but while watching it
it struck me how different their worldview was from ours and how it is grounded biblically but totally wrong.
here
the mother was saying the viking is god's punishment for sins. she's the mother of the main character. she said we need to repent our sins. we need to pray. we need the priest to bless the troops.
the christians said that by relying on the only true god and his son jesus christ, they will prevail over the vikings. the first episode had a battle and the christians were annihilated. kinda like the jewish holocaust.
the bible of course makes similar claims
Isaiah 24 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Judgment on the Earth
24 Behold, the Lord lays the earth waste, devastates it, distorts its surface and scatters its inhabitants. 2 And the people will be like the priest, the servant like his master, the maid like her mistress, the buyer like the seller, the lender like the borrower, the creditor like the debtor. 3 The earth will be completely laid waste and completely despoiled, for the Lord has spoken this word. 4 The earth mourns and withers, the world fades and withers, the exalted of the people of the earth fade away. 5 The earth is also polluted [a]by its inhabitants, for they transgressed laws, violated statutes, broke the everlasting covenant. 6 Therefore, a curse devours the earth, and those who live in it are held guilty. Therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left.
a major topic both in the history channel vikings and bbc vikings
is that the vikings were pagans, they are called heathen and pagans they worship the devil.
here a christian told the vikings they worship a false god, thor is a false god, and they worship the true god
these claims reminds me of david and goliath
1 Samuel 17 New International Version (NIV)
David and Goliath
17 Now the Philistines gathered their forces for war and assembled at Sokoh in Judah. They pitched camp at Ephes Dammim, between Sokoh and Azekah. 2 Saul and the Israelites assembled and camped in the Valley of Elah and drew up their battle line to meet the Philistines. 3 The Philistines occupied one hill and the Israelites another, with the valley between them.
4 A champion named Goliath, who was from Gath, came out of the Philistine camp. His height was six cubits and a span.[a] 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head and wore a coat of scale armor of bronze weighing five thousand shekels[b]; 6 on his legs he wore bronze greaves, and a bronze javelin was slung on his back. 7 His spear shaft was like a weaver’s rod, and its iron point weighed six hundred shekels.[c] His shield bearer went ahead of him.
8 Goliath stood and shouted to the ranks of Israel, “Why do you come out and line up for battle? Am I not a Philistine, and are you not the servants of Saul? Choose a man and have him come down to me. 9 If he is able to fight and kill me, we will become your subjects; but if I overcome him and kill him, you will become our subjects and serve us.” 10 Then the Philistine said, “This day I defy the armies of Israel! Give me a man and let us fight each other.” 11 On hearing the Philistine’s words, Saul and all the Israelites were dismayed and terrified.
12 Now David was the son of an Ephrathite named Jesse, who was from Bethlehem in Judah. Jesse had eight sons, and in Saul’s time he was very old. 13 Jesse’s three oldest sons had followed Saul to the war: The firstborn was Eliab; the second, Abinadab; and the third, Shammah. 14 David was the youngest. The three oldest followed Saul, 15 but David went back and forth from Saul to tend his father’s sheep at Bethlehem.
16 For forty days the Philistine came forward every morning and evening and took his stand.
17 Now Jesse said to his son David, “Take this ephah[d] of roasted grain and these ten loaves of bread for your brothers and hurry to their camp. 18 Take along these ten cheeses to the commander of their unit. See how your brothers are and bring back some assurance[e] from them. 19 They are with Saul and all the men of Israel in the Valley of Elah, fighting against the Philistines.”
20 Early in the morning David left the flock in the care of a shepherd, loaded up and set out, as Jesse had directed. He reached the camp as the army was going out to its battle positions, shouting the war cry. 21 Israel and the Philistines were drawing up their lines facing each other. 22 David left his things with the keeper of supplies, ran to the battle lines and asked his brothers how they were. 23 As he was talking with them, Goliath, the Philistine champion from Gath, stepped out from his lines and shouted his usual defiance, and David heard it. 24 Whenever the Israelites saw the man, they all fled from him in great fear.
25 Now the Israelites had been saying, “Do you see how this man keeps coming out? He comes out to defy Israel. The king will give great wealth to the man who kills him. He will also give him his daughter in marriage and will exempt his family from taxes in Israel.”
26 David asked the men standing near him, “What will be done for the man who kills this Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?”
27 They repeated to him what they had been saying and told him, “This is what will be done for the man who kills him.”
28 When Eliab, David’s oldest brother, heard him speaking with the men, he burned with anger at him and asked, “Why have you come down here? And with whom did you leave those few sheep in the wilderness? I know how conceited you are and how wicked your heart is; you came down only to watch the battle.”
29 “Now what have I done?” said David. “Can’t I even speak?” 30 He then turned away to someone else and brought up the same matter, and the men answered him as before. 31 What David said was overheard and reported to Saul, and Saul sent for him.
32 David said to Saul, “Let no one lose heart on account of this Philistine; your servant will go and fight him.”
33 Saul replied, “You are not able to go out against this Philistine and fight him; you are only a young man, and he has been a warrior from his youth.”
34 But David said to Saul, “Your servant has been keeping his father’s sheep. When a lion or a bear came and carried off a sheep from the flock, 35 I went after it, struck it and rescued the sheep from its mouth. When it turned on me, I seized it by its hair, struck it and killed it. 36 Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, because he has defied the armies of the living God. 37 The Lord who rescued me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will rescue me from the hand of this Philistine.”
Saul said to David, “Go, and the Lord be with you.”
38 Then Saul dressed David in his own tunic. He put a coat of armor on him and a bronze helmet on his head. 39 David fastened on his sword over the tunic and tried walking around, because he was not used to them.
“I cannot go in these,” he said to Saul, “because I am not used to them.” So he took them off. 40 Then he took his staff in his hand, chose five smooth stones from the stream, put them in the pouch of his shepherd’s bag and, with his sling in his hand, approached the Philistine.
41 Meanwhile, the Philistine, with his shield bearer in front of him, kept coming closer to David. 42 He looked David over and saw that he was little more than a boy, glowing with health and handsome, and he despised him. 43 He said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. 44 “Come here,” he said, “and I’ll give your flesh to the birds and the wild animals!”
45 David said to the Philistine, “You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the Lord will deliver you into my hands, and I’ll strike you down and cut off your head. This very day I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds and the wild animals, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. 47 All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the Lord saves; for the battle is the Lord’s, and he will give all of you into our hands.”
48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.
50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.
When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran. 52 Then the men of Israel and Judah surged forward with a shout and pursued the Philistines to the entrance of Gath[f] and to the gates of Ekron. Their dead were strewn along the Shaaraim road to Gath and Ekron. 53 When the Israelites returned from chasing the Philistines, they plundered their camp.
54 David took the Philistine’s head and brought it to Jerusalem; he put the Philistine’s weapons in his own tent.
55 As Saul watched David going out to meet the Philistine, he said to Abner, commander of the army, “Abner, whose son is that young man?”
Abner replied, “As surely as you live, Your Majesty, I don’t know.”
56 The king said, “Find out whose son this young man is.”
57 As soon as David returned from killing the Philistine, Abner took him and brought him before Saul, with David still holding the Philistine’s head.
58 “Whose son are you, young man?” Saul asked him.
David said, “I am the son of your servant Jesse of Bethlehem.”
this is what the heathen pagan vikings did to the christian
this is david and goliath in reverse, here the goliath, the pagans defeated the christians and decapitated them.
now where i grew up there were a lot of jews who held christians in contempt, held they worship the true god and not some triune false god of the christians and that jesus is not christ is not god
but does anyone seriously believe if you give these jews sling shots
allowed them to pray to yahweh, to perform sacrifices to yahweh and read torah and recite the passage of king david over the philistines,
they would have any chance against the Vikings?
or mongols or shaka zulu and his africans, the jews have any chance of winning? i don't.
the jews did engage war against the babylonians and romans and lost badly, were marginalized by both christians and muslims and got their asses kicked by the germans in ww2. for me the holocaust is a clear demonstration that when you compare what the bible says about god protecting his chosen people the jews, vs the real world, what actual outcome is, jews lose badly just as christians lost badly to the vikings.
the bible claims god is with the jews and gives them military victories, but watching vikings, they routinely kill christians and credit thor and odin as being more powerful than yahweh and jesus christ, and they have plenty of military victories to back it up.
the priest prayed to jesus christ for victory and deliverance against the vikings, before the vikings slaughtered huge numbers of anglo saxon christians.
watching vikings i understand why they needed gods, to believe in an afterlife, both vikings with vahlahala and christians with heaven
and that religion became a rallying cry to give troops courage and morale.
if i existed in that time period i'd believe in my deity and hope to go to heaven in the afterlife.
i was in church and catholic school and sunday school and i listen to how god loves king david and gave him military victories over the pagans. but in the real world, those pagans, the vikings, massacred christians, and the romans and babylonians and germans annihilated the jews.
but now its clear to me military victory has nothing to do with deities. the bible claims are wrong.
both in this show and vikings, the vikings point out that when they defeat the christians in military battle, this proves odin and thor is more powerful than yahweh and jesus.
again the bible wants us to believe in yahweh is more powerful than the gods of Egypt and philistiens and canaanite deities due to military victories, how then do you explain when those armies defeat israel ? or when hitler wiped out 6 million?
personally i don't understand why vikings converted to christianity, though i know that rollo got a good deal from the french, and king alfred offered a deal to accept the vikings should they convert to christianity, which is what happened historically.
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