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Post by redpill Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:53 pm

Sat Apr 27, 2019

after websleuth i looked for a new home, one that has superdave on it.

i found one in crimeshots. one of the earliest posts on crime shots with Jonbenet was on Valerie Percy.

Sadly, Superdave did certain things and apparently will be gone forever.

It is on crimeshots I met rupert, roy23, inspector rex status quo and Mama2JML


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IDI or RDI

in addition to rupert, roy23, inspector rex status quo and Mama2JML

i recall, smurf fairm doober zen9000 blue hippo angelwings royalpurple and the admin crimeshots1

crimeshots1 and Mama2JML both admins, both from the same city

superdave complained to crimeshots1 that i was "stealing" by transferring his posts from websleuth to crimeshots so crimeshots1 banned me, but she's welcome here if she wants.

on justicequest

there was athena, who is also on the jonbenet wiki, who knows of the pwoer of the daubert side of the forensices

one female poster on justicequest was hard core RDI, but she took great interest in my mr cruel theory and after i was banned, wanted me unbanned so she could learn more and found it very interesting. i forget her name, and justicequest know is hidden.

inspector rex is the only person who knew me from both crimeshots where i first met him, where he was whodunnit, and justicequest

on crimeshot

i recall smurf being a huge michael jackson fan, and that she was like 19 and already had a couple of kids, something insprector rex and i were surprised

also, fairm and smurf, both being british and from the UK didn' t know what kool aid was.

fairm joined websleuth where she met fellow uk but notjob ukguy.

inspector rex and i both agree jeeves was an annoying nuisance. he argued there was no intruder in valerie percy, her sister murdered her, which goes against what was in that case.

my info was from crime library on trucrime tv, which is long gone. sadly. and trucime tv is gone, but there's ID.

tadpole from websleuth can join here as well,

as i understand it you need to email Mama2JML to join.  Like a Star @ heaven  Like a Star @ heaven

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:14 am

I would love to see a new approach rather than a rehash of the same old things.

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Post by redpill Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:38 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I would love to see a new approach rather than a rehash of the same old things.

you won't find my forensics files and mr cruel approach anywhere else

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:29 pm

I did not think anyone should take Boulder out of this crime. It’s part of it. Perfect Murder, Perfect Town. Mr Cruel's MO is interesting but to link him to Boulder I think you need more than he was on vacation. The University is perhaps a connection but I would like to see it. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s a Naropa Student.

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Post by redpill Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:05 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I did not think anyone should take Boulder out of this crime. It’s part of it. Perfect Murder, Perfect Town. Mr Cruel's MO is interesting but to link him to Boulder I think you need more than he was on vacation. The University is perhaps a connection but I would like to see it. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s a Naropa Student.

sadly i'm not too familiar with boulder No

i've not seen avengers end game and everyone is talking about it, at least the geeks i know, so.

i am familiar with forensic files so that's how i approach it.

one issue i have with boulder is if we look at other crimes, from mollie tibbets to jayme kloss to abigail williams and liberty german,

the killers or abductors in jayme kloss, could be anyone, though usually male, live anywhere and kill for any reason.

the tracy neef theory suggests killer is from thorton colorado

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:39 pm

John Walsh’s new show In Pursuit... episode 12 the second part was filmed in my neighborhood. I was aware of the crime from about 20 years ago but not that the suspect had fled the country. What stands out in this case is the very young victim who gave her account to a counselor of the sexual abuse she endured at such a young age. She knew it was wrong.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:54 pm

searchinGirl wrote:John Walsh’s new show In Pursuit... episode 12 the second part was filmed in my neighborhood. I was aware of the crime from about 20 years ago but not that the suspect had fled the country. What stands out in this case is the very young victim who gave her account to a counselor of the sexual abuse she endured at such a young age. She knew it was wrong.

do you think he was involved in JBR?

JBR's killer may have left the country by now.

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:12 pm

No. That culprit was still pretty young (15 or so) when JBR was killed. I could see the killer being that young perhaps but the logistics of it I can’t comprehend. The subdivision is ten miles from the Ramsey house. The show has some nice pictures of the Boulder area.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:22 pm

searchinGirl wrote:No. That culprit was still pretty young (15 or so) when JBR was killed. I could see the killer being that young perhaps but the logistics of it I can’t comprehend. The subdivision is ten miles from the Ramsey house. The show has some nice pictures of the Boulder area.

well SD was a teen in 1996 and he was investigated.

what country did he flee to? the DNA may be hispanic

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:26 pm

I don’t think they know. They said they believe he is somewhere in Europe. On the murder of JBR I keep thinking it could have been a Naropa student. But I think then we need to consider whether the killer acted alone or was part the of a “Foreign Faction”.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:35 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I don’t think they know. They said they believe he is somewhere in Europe. On the murder of JBR I keep thinking it could have been a Naropa student. But I think then we need to consider whether the killer acted alone or was part the of a “Foreign Faction”.

I've never heard of Naruopa but i just looked it up. just another small college AFAIK.

lots of them all over the US. what about Univ of Colorado @ boulder?

if JBR killer never killed before or since, unlike my Mr Cruel or OCCK theory,

he could be anyone anywhere doing anything. not possible to narrow the suspect pool.

Siobahn McGuiness was murdered way back in 1974 in missoula montana

an eye witness suggested the killer had a car with a new york licnese plate


Chrestenson said Tuesday that he remains hopeful the public can help by providing tips or even hunches or memories they recall from the time of the murder. He said witnesses reported seeing two distinct vehicles in the area where McGuinness' body was recovered - a 1959 or 1960 Ford Fairlane with Montana plates, and a 1958 or 1960 Cadillac with New York plates. McGuinness went missing Feb. 7, 1974, from from the 500 block of N. 2nd St. W.

ref https://missoulian.com/news/missoula-police-take-fresh-look-at-murder-of-girl/article_18b983e1-152c-5386-90c6-34c9c1eea3c4.html

so it seems someone from new york drove to missoula montana, abducted and killed Sibhoan then disappeared, never to commit a crime which his DNA was entered into CODIS.

they have his dna via semen, no hits, no other known crimes.

i think familial dna can solve this.

siobahn was age 5 when somone with new york license plates killed her way back in 1974 in montana.

so no reason JBR's killer has to be from boulder. could be from new york like siboahn's killer.

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:44 pm

I just think the killer was familiar with the neighborhood and that part of Boulder. Naropa was founded by Rinpoche and the Beat Poet Allen Ginsburg. Kind of a radical hippy commune on the east side of Boulder. Cult like behavior. It grew in Shambhala religion in Boulder. Lots of martial artists that practice the fighting arts like a religion. Tibetan Buddhism has a stronghold in Boulder.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:58 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I just think the killer was familiar with the neighborhood and that part of Boulder. Naropa was founded by Rinpoche and the Beat Poet Allen Ginsburg. Kind of a radical hippy commune on the east side of Boulder. Cult like behavior. It grew in Shambhala religion in Boulder. Lots of martial artists that practice the fighting arts like a religion. Tibetan Buddhism has a stronghold in Boulder.

how do you see these things in JBR's murder?

IMO i see a perp who likes hollywood movies like dirty harry ransom and speed.
other movies may include die hard to the fugitive, to the usual suspects as i describe on this blog.

i'm a star wars fan myself, and if you read my other thread, cait is a huge marvel fan, talking about avengers endgame.

that movie rests on 21 marvel movies before it like thor and iron man and guardians of the galaxy to fully understand.


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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:02 pm

I think the Ransom Note points to pornography. The guy was a videophile. Maybe that comes from my days managing the video store in the 80s. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy has pictures or a movie of killing JBR.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:10 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I think the Ransom Note points to pornography. The guy was a videophile. Maybe that comes from my days managing the video store in the 80s. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy has pictures or a movie of killing JBR.

i don't see pornography in the ransom note

i do think he was a videophile or moviephile of a certain genre, action thriller

the zodiac killer letter said he likes killing bc man is the most dangerous animal

and that's similar to a phrase in a book dangerous game

oxygen has a whole series copycat killers, killers inspired by books and movies, including teen females by vampires.

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Post by MurderMysteryReader Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:12 pm

The possibility of a video recording of the killing of JBR has been discussed on other forums and it amounted to speculation; since no video has ever been found. That would indicate there might have been two involved one to kill her and one to videotape it. If a videotape recording ever surfaced then we would know. He was definitely into movies since the tweaked version of the lines are in the note. Checking out everyone who has seen these movies would be time consuming and I don't think that just because they have seen them would mean he killed JBR. His favorite movies that he probably watched a lot or else has a memory that he can remember all the lines well enough to change them up. There are teenagers who would do this type of crime and so it is a huge possibility that it was one. Did the Ramseys ever have a male babysitter that might have done this. He would have been familiar with the home and would not have raised any eyebrows if he had been seen there at times when he wasn't supposed to be babysitting. I am aware they had one or two female Nannies.

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Post by MurderMysteryReader Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:15 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I just think the killer was familiar with the neighborhood and that part of Boulder. Naropa was founded by Rinpoche and the Beat Poet Allen Ginsburg. Kind of a radical hippy commune on the east side of Boulder. Cult like behavior. It grew in Shambhala religion in Boulder. Lots of martial artists that practice the fighting arts like a religion. Tibetan Buddhism has a stronghold in Boulder.


I think he was too. Not only familiar with Boulder and surrounding area but also might have been a martial artist. He might have known who the Ramseys were but didn't know them. Perhaps he attended the holiday tour the Ramseys participated in to get to know the lay of their home for later use. Practicing the martial arts would have empowered him and so he felt like he could do this. He might have learned how to move silently and used what he knew to move around the Ramsey home in a silent manner so as not to wake anyone;especially if he studied ninjutsu. If he was Buddhist then that would explain why he was not spending the day with family. It wouldn't be a holiday for him.


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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:52 pm

MurderMysteryReader wrote:The possibility of a video recording of the killing of JBR has been discussed on other forums and it amounted to speculation; since no video has ever been found. That would indicate there might have been two involved one to kill her and one to videotape it. If a videotape recording ever surfaced then we would know. He was definitely into movies since the tweaked version of the lines are in the note. Checking  out everyone who has seen these movies would be time consuming and I don't think that just because they have seen them would mean he killed JBR.  His favorite movies that he probably watched a lot or else has a memory that he can remember all the lines well enough to change them up. There are teenagers who would do this type of crime and so it is a huge possibility that it was one. Did the Ramseys ever have a male babysitter that might have done this. He would have been familiar with the home and would not have raised any eyebrows if he had been seen there at times when he wasn't supposed to be babysitting. I am aware they had one or two female Nannies.

If it was the perp’s pleasure he may have taken pictures or recorded her and still has it in his possession. I’ve often thought he engaged her in some sort of role play to elicit her cooperation. Playing photographer would seem to fit and as far as I can tell she loved the camera and most likely was enjoying it until he started hurting her. I think in the Ransom Note movie references sound like the guy rehearsed the lines which fits into role playing also. The more I think about how this perpetrator really was the more sadistic he becomes in my mind.

I don’t know any young men or boys that would have babysat her. I thought I read somewhere that when Patsy was ill John Andrew would come over and hang out with JonBenet. It’s possible he might have brought friends with him and she befriended her killer that way. But I’ve always thought that she was familiar with whoever killed her. She initially trusted him. I think a teenager is possible but I would think he would have to be in the neighborhood due to the same logistics I mentioned before.

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:30 pm

MurderMysteryReader wrote:Practicing the martial arts would have empowered him and so he felt like he could do this. He might have learned how to move silently and used what he knew to move  around the Ramsey home in a silent manner so as not to wake anyone;especially if he studied ninjutsu. If he was Buddhist then that would explain why he was not spending the day with family. It wouldn't be a holiday for him.


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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:24 pm

searchinGirl wrote:
MurderMysteryReader wrote:Practicing the martial arts would have empowered him and so he felt like he could do this. He might have learned how to move silently and used what he knew to move  around the Ramsey home in a silent manner so as not to wake anyone;especially if he studied ninjutsu. If he was Buddhist then that would explain why he was not spending the day with family. It wouldn't be a holiday for him.


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btw tomorrow i get 1 molar lower left extracted Sad

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:28 pm

I’m sorry for your loss. Those big teeth might hurt coming out. But the pain and the infection will be gone once the tooth is out. Good luck.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:30 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I’m sorry for your loss. Those big teeth might hurt coming out. But the pain and the infection will be gone once the tooth is out. Good luck.

pale pale

i sadly learned 2 new things,

"Tooth resorption"


Root resorption is the progressive loss of dentine and cementum by the action of osteoclasts.[1] This is a physiological process in the exfoliation of the primary dentition, caused by osteoclast differentiation due to pressure exerted by the erupting permanent tooth. However, in the secondary dentition the process is pathological.

one molar had some kind of osteoclast problem so root canal

the other molar had a vertical fracture and cannot be repaired. thats what is being extracted tomorrow pale

i won the dental anti-lottery

to have one tooth resorption molar and the adjacent molar a vertical fracture is extremely rare. brushing and flossing has no affect.

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Post by searchinGirl Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:25 pm

Wow. This situation is new to me. And I thought I’d experienced all dental problems. Are these teeth upper of lower. If you get a partial, I think uppers might be easier. But I only wear my lowers. I certainly hope it goes smoothly for you.

I saw the doctor today about my arm. Almost all healed up but I need to build strength in it. Maybe golf in 3 weeks.

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Post by redpill Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:33 pm

searchinGirl wrote:Wow. This situation is new to me. And I thought I’d experienced all dental problems. Are these teeth upper of lower. If you get a partial, I think uppers might be easier. But I only wear my lowers. I certainly hope it goes smoothly for you.

I saw the doctor today about my arm. Almost all healed up but I need to build strength in it. Maybe golf in 3 weeks.

well it is new to me to Sad

it's my lower left jaw, tooth 19 and 18. 19 had a root canal, 18 needs to be extracted, i plan to get implant

i also had scaling and root planing upper lower left quadrant. also new to me. never had it done before.

i notice u disappeared for several weeks.

glad to hear your arm is getting better.

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