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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:46 am

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:29 am

it's hot here, so my time here has been light, but

in the news,


Story image for JonBenet from New York Post
JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer indicted on child porn charges
New York Post-Jul 12, 2019
An Oregon man who reportedly photographed JonBenét Ramsey just months before her unsolved 1996 murder — and was later arrested for ...

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Randall DeWitt Simons, 66, was hit with 15 counts of second-degree encouraging child sex abuse and was arraigned on Thursday


The photographer who took beauty photos of JonBenet Ramsey has been arrested and charged for child pornography in Oregon.

Randall DeWitt Simons, 66, was hit with 15 counts of second-degree encouraging child sex abuse and was arraigned on Thursday. Simons pleaded not guilty to all of the charges.

The Oakridge resident was detained on July 2 by Springfield Police, who assisted Oakridge police in their June investigation of the man, the Register Guard reports.

The arrest follows a July 2018 report from A&W to the police that someone was using the eatery's WiFi to download inappropriate images.

Following the report, police tracked the computer's identification address from the restaurant's WiFi system.

Police were then able to determine that the computer belonged to a man who lived in the area, according to a search warrant affidavit filed in Lane County Circuit Court this month.

Police used a special software program to gain access to Simons' computer as it logged in to the A&W in real time. A device allowed police to determine where the signal was coming from.

Simons is due back in court on August 7 for a pre-trial conference.

Authorities were able to secure a warrant for Simons' residence on June 27. There, they found four laptops, three camcorders, two bags of writable optical discs and six cameras.

After learning that Simons was a child photographer, police asked that anyone who left their children unattended with the man to contact Oackridge Police and the Lane County Sheriff's Office.
ref https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242351/JonBenet-Ramseys-photographer-charged-15-counts-encouraging-child-sex-abuse.html

when i speak of RDI framework i am alluding to this




Suspect trasha pictured below is an example of an anti-science denialist

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JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework Tricia10

this is what she claims

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?76520-Patsy-Ramsey/page92
tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.

No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.

As owner, I do my best to stay out of actual discussions about a crime.

The JBR case is the one expection.

Websleuths is a leader in true crime information as well as discussion. People come here to get information. It is imperative we deal with the facts. Not fantasy.

All I ask for are facts and a logical connecting of the dots. Logic and facts.

When I get time I will be going through the forum to make sure the JonBenet Ramsey forum is being held up to the high standards just like all our other forums on Websleuths.

The days of allowing anyone to post anything because it's part of their "theory" are gone. Facts and logic. Very simple.

this is her qualifications

Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.

in other words she has ZERO qualifications in forensic science. she has no training in forensic fiber, trace evidence, DNA yet she claims

tricia griffith wrote:
Anti-K, this whole forum has example after example after example that an intruder did not commit this crime.

No one can show one scintilla of evidence of an intruder.




similarly with Delmar England


delmar england wrote:
Letter to Boulder Colorado District Attorney, Mary Keenan

The crime scene consisted of an obviously bogus multi-page "ransom note" utilizing local materials. JonBenet's body was left in the basement of the Ramsey home with crude trappings falling woefully short of presenting a convincing kidnap\murder scene as it was intended to do. Even without pointing out more of a very long list of corroborating facts, the bogus note and inept staging is more than sufficient to isolate the perpetrators to the Ramsey household. Only a few minutes in examining and evaluating the evidence is required to reach this conclusion. It is impossible to reach any other conclusion on the facts. There was and is no evidentiary reason to look anywhere else. The only mystery to be solved was and is which Ramsey did what in relation to JonBenet's death.

Although it is not possible to reach any other conclusion from the evidence, it is possible to ignore the evidence and mentally invent "evidence" to take the place of truth and keep it hidden. Prompted by preconceived notions set in a context of money and political influence in conjunction with investigative cowardice and incompetence, this is precisely what has been going on for over six years.
delmar wrote:
Handwriting? Patsy has not been ruled out by several examiners. By my own analysis, not of the writing, but of the mind match between the note and Patsy is clear. This is explained in my analysis of the "ransom note." So far, neither you nor anyone else has quoted and challenged it. So, to say the handwriting does not match the Ramseys, thus all Ramseys are excluded as author, is just another arbitrary declaration without substance. Note the exclusion of Ramseys necessarily depends on the intruder idea of no factual substance.

DNA? So, it does not match the family. So what? Who does it match? Unknown? If unknown, how can it be known to connect to the crime and be "evidence?" If the source of this DNA were known, then factually connected to the crime scene, then it is evidence. Absence this, it is just more speculation that caters to intruder mental creation.

Does the DNA have to be connected to the crime? Could it not be from a benign source totally removed from the crime scene? Again, the alleged evidence evidences nothing except itself with no known connection to the crime. No outsider as perpetrator is required to explain the DNA since no connection is known as crime related.

The same is true for boot print, hairs, fibers, etc.. A close look into anyone's house would most likely turn up all sorts of things whose source were unknown whether there is a crime or not. To call something whose source and cause is unknown as evidence is to say it causal related while simultaneously saying cause is unknown, thus relationship unknown; more "negative evidence." If my recollection of high school Latin is correct, this could be called "ignotium per ignotius", the unknown by the more unknown.

This "Ramsey defense" "thinking" is a direct and absurd contradiction that is without limit. With this kind of "investigative latitude", I dare say that one could "prove" anything; or at least, convince the deluded self that he or she has done so. "negative evidence?" Surely, thou jest. I repeat: All known evidence is local.
delmar england wrote:
For every "could be", there is a "could be not", therefore, inconclusive until cause is known. Right? No thing is evidence until evidentiary cause is known. Right? Are we in agreement so far? If not, please point out what you think is my error in thinking, and why you think it is error.

A shoe print is found in the basement whose cause is unknown. It "could be" evidence of an intruder. "Could be not" is forgotten and "evidence" of an intruder is declared to be fact. There is a palm print with cause unknown; a rope with source unknown that "could be" something brought in by an intruder; an unidentified fiber, a baseball bat that "could have" been used by the intruder; a bit of dirt or leaves at a window well which "could have" been disturbed by an intruder. The list goes on and on and on.

This massive "evidence" stated to be more consistent with a theory of intruder than Ramsey guilt is hot air, nothing more than a string of unknowns verbally laced together on "could be", simultaneously divorced from the known, and declared to be much evidence of an intruder. Ridiculous to the max. No wonder no one will step forward and answer questions about alleged evidence of an alleged intruder. Its indefensible.

The beauty of truth is that it is consistent. Every fact is a complement of and blends with every other fact without contradiction. The presence of a contradiction is also the presence of error. Are we in agreement up to this point?


i've headed over there and i found RDI posts similar to this

Zero Objectivity In The JonBenet Ramsey Homicide Case - Why You Need To Revisit Your Theories

by Posted byu/[deleted]10 months ago

When you don't know the difference between an idea, a speculation, a theory and evidence - you'll run into trouble trying to get to know a case.

Excluding the ninja pedo fetish trolls who have arrived in full regalia to degrade both these subs with their twisted pedo fan fic fantasies, I'd assume the rest of us who bother to even remain subscribed still would like to discuss the case at length and hash out theories and whatnot. I would too but after an extended break to come back and see some of these ludicrous IDI posts that are no such thing - I see a serious discussion may now be too much to ask for.

This is a fleshed out write up on some things that need to be addressed. It's not the tldr version. If you want that, oh well.

WHAT WE KNOW

There are two primary camps: RDI and IDI. Ramsey(s) Did It and Intruder Did It. In the RDI camp, we have three sub camps: Patsy Did It (all), John Did It (all), and Burke Did It (R/J cover up). We all have the basis elements down and we all know there are plenty of questions that will never, ever be answered so the most we can do is try the most sensical, intuitive, logical, reasonable, and rational speculation and see if it adds up.

When it comes to the IDI camp, at this place 20 years later, it's pretty clear that IDI is a dinosaur to everyone who is familiar with the case. We get it now, there's plenty of evidence of RDI - but which R remains up for grabs. The IDI debate ended years ago with new information, insight, and revelations. It's only a "thing" for those who for whatever reasons never followed this case, never paid much attention, just didn't delve into it beyond the age old headlines and going ideas that those who have been more involved have known for awhile are refuted, discarded, irrelevant, etc.

Then there's the other faction of IDIer that are not seriously IDIers. They are trolls or Ramsey shills or mentally disturbed sorts, and of course, the twisted Karr style fetishists who want a canvas to roll out their disturbing fetish nonsense and attach it to this case. This camp doesn't actually care about this case, the facts or the evidence, or what happened to JonBenet. Their sole agenda is to degrade the discussion. They will neither respect nor regard the following points and will likely argue them in spite of reality. By their fruits they shall be known.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/comments/95s2u1/zero_objectivity_in_the_jonbenet_ramsey_homicide/


so this is the RDI framework



JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework 08282010
JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework Tricia10
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JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework 15979310

so the question is, should they take DNA samples from him and compare it to distal stain 007, and if it does match, does he become a suspect?

it's worth observing that

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lived in and worked in boulder colorado, same city as searchingirl in dec 1996 where he was JB's photographer,

but then moved to Oregon and was arrested there Juy 2019

JB's killer could live anywhere in the USA, Canada or the world at this point.

this is the question that RDI cannot answer,



JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework 08282010
JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework Tricia10
JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework 5d218910
JonBenét Ramsey's former photographer and the question RDI can't answer within their framework 15979310


the first question is should they even collect DNA from Randall DeWitt Simons, 66,

and if the DNA in distal stain 007 matches Randall DeWitt Simons, 66,
is this evidence of an intruder and that RDI theories are wrong?

searchingirl
Randall DeWitt Simons, 66,  also lived in Boulder Colorado and he was also JBR's photographer

he's 66 now so he would have been 46 in 1996

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:37 pm

This a just a tiny suggestion, but you distract from yourself by constantly criticizing “Trasha”. Your ideas are good enough to stand on their own. As far as Randy Simons, I think he knows something. Rootless is right about that. Will he talk or not?

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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:44 pm

searchinGirl wrote:This a just a tiny suggestion, but you distract from yourself by constantly criticizing “Trasha”. Your ideas are good enough to stand on their own. As far as Randy Simons, I think he knows something. Rootless is right about that. Will he talk or not?

i was only alluding to rdi claims that there is no evidence of an intruder dna is not evidence.

so if rootless is thanakoon is he now "rdi" now? sounds like a huge change.

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:58 pm

No TK isn’t RDI. He believes it was the operations of a pedo ring. And you know what? The only cult-like behavior I’ve observed in Boulder seems to revere Shambhala, most especially the martial arts fighting type people. All the Rinpoches traveled with bodyguards. Do you think the Dali Lama would come to town without security?

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:07 pm

i was only alluding to rdi claims that there is no evidence of an intruder dna is not evidence.

Well, for those of us that don’t really want to hear anymore what the old cronies at websleuths think, those over there that keep pushing the same old tired story. You wrote... “i was only alluding to rdi claims that there is no evidence of an intruder dna is not evidence.” I think you should reword it to eliminate other posters at other forums as though you are trying to convince them they are wrong instead of stating all the things that make you right as rain. Should I consider doing that for you?

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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:18 pm

searchinGirl wrote:
i was only alluding to rdi claims that there is no evidence of an intruder dna is not evidence.

Well, for those of us that don’t really want to hear anymore what the old cronies at websleuths think, those over there that keep pushing the same old tired story. You wrote... “i was only alluding to rdi claims that there is no evidence of an intruder dna is not evidence.” I think you should reword it to eliminate other posters at other forums as though you are trying to convince them they are wrong instead of stating all the things that make you right as rain. Should I consider doing that for you?

sure, and you can cross post it on reddit if you want.

i see both bennybaku and jameson both discuss the barbara mackle and leopold and loeb ransom note on your reddit.

only superdave really understands me.

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:21 pm

Alright then. I’ll work it into my schedule. You asked before about my wrist. It feels okay for awhile but it’s still hindering my golf game a little bit. And it’s lost it power. Playing golf in the am.

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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:39 pm

searchinGirl wrote:Alright then. I’ll work it into my schedule. You asked before about my wrist. It feels okay for awhile but it’s still hindering my golf game a little bit. And it’s lost it power. Playing golf in the am.

i do like driving golf carts lol. probably safer than atv, but yeah i prefer tennis.


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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:46 pm

I doubt I could back hand a tennis racket. Plus it’s been along time since I’ve play tennis.

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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:59 pm

searchinGirl wrote:I doubt I could back hand a tennis racket. Plus it’s been along time since I’ve play tennis.

right now its extremely hot and direct sun, plus my feet is covered either by flea bites or chiggers

i'm not sure i'd play golf or even drive ina golf cart in this weather lol.

thing is the a/c is so many business is so cold i bring a jacket

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Post by searchinGirl Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:06 pm

A good way to cool of is to put your feet in ice water. Freeze this flea bites.

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Post by redpill Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:11 pm

searchinGirl wrote:A good way to cool of is to put your feet in ice water. Freeze this flea bites.

thanks i think i'll do that. really its only itchy to me at night before i go to bed.

right now i'm watching zodiac 2007.

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